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Hello and welcome to Word and Work an Intersection.

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I'm your host Dale Meyer. This hour we will talk with Dr.

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Leopoldo Sanchez at Concordia Seminary.

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Sanchez is Professor of Systematic Theology.

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And he's also the Director of the Center for Hispanic Studies and we

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will talk with him about this year's Multi-Ethnic Symposium.

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It'll be held virtually May 4th and 5th.

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Welcome.

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Dr.

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Sanchez. Es Creighton Xavier Z candidacy. Bienvenida. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm glad to visit with you

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you've always been a wonderful colleague on the faculty.

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First of all, tell us what Systematic Theology is before we get into

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the Multi-Ethnic Symposium.

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What in the world does that big title mean your professor of systematic

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theology?

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Well, it basically means that you study the church's teaching over time

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the church's Doctrine and you do it in a systematic way.

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So you might talk first about God the Trinity and you might talk about

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salvation in Christ.

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You might talk about the Holy Spirit's work of sanctification.

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And so you do that in conversation with the scriptures and you know

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that the church's teaching in history and then also in a way that you

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can address

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our contemporary issues or present the Christian faith in the

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contemporary world.

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So that means it is it's like catechism at a very high level. Yeah it's catechism

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on steroids. Catechism on steroids. And you just said that if it's about

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addressing contemporary society, so you look at the scriptures on

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whatever the given topic happens to be but you're also look at where

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the world is at?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And and you know, this is this is important.

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So for example, I look at the Latin America where I come from and it's

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a little interest there in the dealing with issues like that poverty

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for intance.

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So we might say well, how does the church's teaching

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about caring for neighbors come to bear on the issue of poverty?

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And how am I that teaching inform responses to care for neighbors?

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So that'll be one example of that.

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That's one example and you have written more than a few articles in

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Concordia Journal.

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That's our faculties theological journal.

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Also you posted on Concordia theology.

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Org.

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So this is systematics really how we from a Biblical Lutheran basis

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engage The Society with its needs wants her to desires Illusions...

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Which I think brings us right to the Multi-Ethnic Symposium.

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So talk about the Multi-Ethnic symposium

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as a systematic theological exercise in which anybody can

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participate. This is not going to be way up in the Ivory Tower

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anyone you I can participate. But talk about that in terms of engaging

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us for engagement with a culture. Yes, so the Multi-Ethnic Symposium is an event that were very proud of

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at Concordia Seminary. We've been doing it for years now. Started as an

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event every two years and then we moved it to a yearly event.

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Now we have to postpone it last year because of COVID.

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So we're kind of doing that one this year and that is kind of our

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missions Symposium. It's a symposium where we really focus on engaging

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the world with the Gospel.

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And this year Symposium is about learning from Christians in the

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global south. Okay the Global South means?

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So Global South would be basically

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Asia, Africa and Latin America. And it's often distinguished from the Global North

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or the West which would include basically most of Europe and the

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United States. And you know, the the West is often seen as a sort of

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rational secular maybe morally liberal and the Global South is

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typically seen as a sort of charismatic by which I mean really in

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tune with sort of the Holy Spirit and how that relates to the world of

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spirits. And also tends to be more morally conservative on issues like

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abortion for instance, but very much aware of realities of poverty and

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migration and so on.

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So that's a little bit of the the contrast, you know between the

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Global North where we live and the Global South and Christianity.

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She was growing in leaps and bounds in the Global South.

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So there must be something we can learn.

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So as you describe the Global North and Global South I was thinking

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most of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod is is in the Global North.

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Okay, we come out of that Western orientation and yet some of the

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things that you said our concerns to people in the Global South we can

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resonate with. So that the Multi-Ethnic Symposium is an opportunity to

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get some fresh insights some reconfirmation of some points of doctrine

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that we believe. The title

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this year is "Rest and the West"? Yes.

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Yes. Would you unpack that for us?

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So the West will be you know what we just defined, but also the rest

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the rest of the Global South and the rest just happens to be huge

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numbers and growing.

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You and I have been to Ethiopia and you probably got a good sense of

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the growth of Christianity and Lutheranism in particular in Ethiopia,

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right? A thousand baptisms a day . A thousand Lutheran baptisms a day

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in Ethiopia.

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When I was there one of the heads of the church said to me how many

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students are in your master's class.

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I was stationed at Masters level class in Theology and I said, you

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know, maybe something like thirty and I thought that was a pretty good

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number. And he said to me not enough for the the demand. I've been invited

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to go back and teach an Ethiopia. Oh that's good. And I'm looking forward to

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that very much so. Yeah. Yeah. And so we need to be aware of that world. If you can look at Lutheranism

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the largest Lutheran churches are now in Africa the largest Lutheran

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university is in Brazil.

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And because of migration and birthrates we have the Global South not

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just out there but right here in North America. So does the rest

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doesn't mean a siesta? Right.

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It means those other people oh those kind of people that we often

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have trouble dealing with. Is that what you mean by the rest the rest

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and us the West. What is the focus going to be this year?

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The main focus of the Symposium.

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Will the main focus is going to be on learning from the rest.

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I think this is important because if indeed, you know,

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Christianity is shifting a southward.

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All right, and we have lots of Lutheran's not to mention other

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Christians in that part of the world.

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Then the question is if they're really the majority or in the

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majority.

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What do they have two teachers like about theology or preaching or

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music and worship?

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What about social engagement or what about missions, you know, and I

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don't think that we have really deeply learned from those brothers and

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sisters.

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So the emphasis is not so much

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what can we in the west give them?

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Or how can we reach out to them?

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It's more

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how can they reach out to us and how they can teach us what it means

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to be the church in this Global world.

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You could you can critique what I'm going to say now, but on the

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basis of what you said my experience in Ethiopia was they want our

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theological knowledge because the West, Concordia Seminary St.

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Louis, has tremendous theological knowledge. But as they grow their

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going to be providing their own pastors and scholars.

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So what we take pride in should not numb us to the fact that we need

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to learn from them. An example of learning from them that came from the

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symposium.

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I guess it was a couple years ago is shame and honor we're talkin

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about this before we went on the air. And

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let me tee it up this way.

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My impression is that most of the Global South operates from a

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paradigm of shame and honor more so than guilt and forgiveness.

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I'm not putting that down.

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It's important.

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But but could you comment on that as an example of something we can

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learn from them for the sake of our own ministry right in our local

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communities here.

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I think about this in terms of my own family, you know, I was raised

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in Latin America and I never go to bed thinking you know, how am I

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going to earn

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my father's forgiveness,

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you know? What I'm always thinking is how am I going to honor my family

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so that I don't shame my parents. And I will go to my death bed

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thinking this way because that's the way that you know, the culture is

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framed is this honor shame kind of thing. And that's increasing in the United States, same and honor. And anybody who comes from a small

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rural community should know something about shame and honor. When I came to the United States I lived in Iowa for a couple of years.

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You know how you represented the family.

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You know, what are you brought to the to the farmers and some on that

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was a big deal.

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I remember my first congregation very small town hundred twenty-five

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people.

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If I did something that ticked somebody off they would not wave at me.

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They were they were they were shaming me. Now

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I remember our sainted colleague Doctor Kou Seying and he explains something

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that is important to us as Lutherans and important

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I think to you our audience.

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You say well, what about forgiveness if you honor God you obey him.

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If you dishonor God you don't obey him and you sin and that needs

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forgiveness.

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So when we talk about learning shame, honor as one example from the

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rest of the world this is that setting aside forgiveness.

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It's just another way for us to relate to people. No moving along

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this is going to be a virtual event this year. Yeah.  Explain that to me.

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We know what virtual is but how is this going to work? Well I'm actually very excited about this.

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This is going to be a whole virtual platform which means that

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presentations will be pre-recorded.

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But the speakers will then have a live session so live Q&A and I think

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that's kind of a nice combination you get to hear the lecture or the

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presentation and then you get spend a little bit of time with the

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speaker live.

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And so what's going to happen is when you register for the event,

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you're going to get an email with a access code and that will give you

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then access to all the lectures and there will be a way in which you

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can click the zoom and go into the lecture that you register for.

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Can you tell us where we go to register?

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csl.edu forward multi-ethnic (csl.edu/multiethic) one word multiethnic, or you can just

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go to the Seminary website and scroll down to events, and eventually

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you'll see Multi-Ethnic Symposium

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and click there. And so that's easy enough.

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So I hope our program today is an incentive for you to consider a

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signing up for the Theological Symposium.

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You don't have to come here.

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You can get the benefits share the benefits with your congregation with

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your pastor

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and so on.

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Okay the big thing in any Symposium is the keynote tell us about

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the keynote this year.

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We're very fortunate to have a world renowned scholar on Global South

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Christianity and really religious movements worldwide.

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Jenkins who has written extensively on this topic. And his keynote is going

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to be about Global South migration and religious movements that come

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along with migrates. When migrants, migrate they bring their religion

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with them and that true of Christianity as well.

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So what he is it going to look at it is

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you know that the dynamic worldwide. And then he's going to see you know,

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the conflicts that that might bring in sometimes because of what you

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said before the rest is the other you know, so we don't know them very

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well, but they're bringing their ways of worship.

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They're bringing their music they're bringing, you know by their

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devotion and sometimes we don't know what to do with it.

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So he brings a little bit of conflict, but then he supposed to not

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talk about cross-pollination like what are good examples of cultures

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coming together and figuring this out.

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let's say I'm the pastor of a small congregation wherever I mean,

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it's almost like a trip back Lake Wobegon 1950 or something and I

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said, well, yeah this concerns rest of America, but what's in it for

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I remember visiting a congregation

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I think it was in Chester, Illinois. Home of Popeye. Home of Popeye there is also a prison there, yeah. And I remember visiting that church and they had

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some families from Mexico in town not too many, but they had some and

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they were wondering how they could reach out to them.

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And I said to let me know what has the Lord given you already and they

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said well, we have a school, bingo.

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You have to see what resources you have been given already and then

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ask how can we engage their kids so that maybe we give him a

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scholarship or something and they can come to our school and what a

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wonderful way to do, you know reach out.

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That's what that's a great example.

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I remember being invited and giving an eighth grade commencement at

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that school St.

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John's Chester and I enjoyed it.

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But me know that that's really a good point.

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We have many non Lutheran's in our Lutheran School

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System and that's a great way to reach out.

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You don't want to club them over the head with Jesus.

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In fact, they they probably know Jesus but it's it's bringing them

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into the richness of our congregations.  Now in conjunction with the

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Multi-Ethnic Symposium, there is also an annual lecture in a Hispanic

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Latino Theology and missions and I understand that this is the 15th

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year for this lecture and talk about who puts this on.

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How does it relate to Multi-Ethnic?

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Assume that I know nothing some people will say yeah, that's right.

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Explain this to me?

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Well Concordia Seminary has a Center for Hispanic Studies which

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provides theological formation in the Spanish language for pastoral

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Would you say that again because I suspect for all the publicity we

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send out that is not known. Just say that again Leo. I'll say it in Spanish for you. I'm just kidding.

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mission is pastor and Deaconess formation and we do it in the Spanish

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language in the United States,

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right. Which is one of the largest Spanish speaking countries in the

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world. And we have also a research component and the annual lecture in

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theology and mission is a way to hear from practitioners and

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theologians out there. What research they're doing and how that can

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inform our engagement or our missions with Hispanic Latino neighbors

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So every year for 15 years, I guess we've been doing this and the

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speaker this year is the Dr. Marcell Silva Steuernagel. Steuernagel. And don't let the last name fool you. Is he

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really with the Teutonic Institute? He's from Brazil.

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century. I know that last name because I grew up in St.

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Paul's Lutheran Church Chicago Heights, Illinois, and they had a

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pastor named Steuernagel. Interesting. When you say that name whoa. And say his name again

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and tell us what he's going to be talking about? Marcell Silva

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South and how you know, those practices might enrich our own way of

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thinking about Worship in our congregations.

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available virtually as well?

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Doctor Vince Bantu. Oh Vince Bantu that we love Vince Bantu. He's a

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for some time, and now he teaches church history and black church

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studies at Fuller Seminary mostly in the Houston campus.

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Which brings mostly African-American pastors who have not had a

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formal theological formation and you know, he assit them in

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theological education and I've actually talked a couple of courses for

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them and systematic theology.

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Christianity and he likes to dispel the myth that Christianity is a

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white man's religion, you know. And so he brings the heritage of what

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he calls non-western Christianity, right.

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what do we have to learn from those Christians, you know. And how they

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help us to think about a Christian identity and how they help us with

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engage culture. It turns out that Christianity has been very diverse

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ethnically, you know. If you look also outside of Western

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Christianity, so he's going to bring a presentation on that. Theology and

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culture and I think he entitled it "Does God See Color" and also I think

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that would be a powerful presentation.

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Will this is a new name to me for give me, but wow.

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Lets let's wrap up this segment

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with a question that would often be put to me when I was president,

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And and you know, what's behind this question you're having these non

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Lutheran speakers Bantu, Jenkins.

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Are you losing the Lutheran Doctrine?

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Yeah, and I. Yeah you are? No, no. Yeah that's a good question I guess.  But no I think most of our speakers actually Lutheran, you know. And they come from the Lutheran tradition and confession. But we like to

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kind of peek in and see what other Christians are saying about Global

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And then ask the question how has Lutheran's do we contribute to that

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conversation because sometimes we might not agree with the solutions

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but they might bring good questions. And I think you're an example of

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that with your work on the Holy Spirit, which is a way we'll begin our

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second segment. For right now

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we're going to take a short break, please stay with us.

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This is great.

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Welcome back to Word and Work an Intersection.

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I'm Dale Meyer. Today

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our guest is Dr. Leopoldo Sanchez.

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Sanchez is a professor of Systematic Theology and is also the Director

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for the Center for Hispanic Studies.

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We've been talking with him about this year's Multi-Ethnic Symposium,

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May 4th and 5th virtually. When we went to break Leo, I raised a question

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some of these speakers are non Lutheran and I would get

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complaints about that when I was a president not not many and

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you gave

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a great answer. Your an example of getting into an area where

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Lutherans have not been historically

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very present and that's the work of the Holy Spirit.

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Would you tell us about that?

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Yeah, so, you know the formal or informal criticism is the Lutherans

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have very little to nothing to say about the Holy Spirit or

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sanctification was just the work of the Holy Spirit in and through the

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believer,

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you know. By making them holy in faith and in love and in fact any

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time that people find out that I'm Lutheran outside of Lutheran

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circles writing on the Holy Spirit, they'll say stuff like really

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shouldn't you be writing or something else?

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Justification by grace, you know how something like that were

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forgiven

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justified before God through Christ by grace alone.

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I was just at the get this the Society of Pentecostal Studies.

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Pentecostals are often known for you know

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talking a lot about the Holy Spirit and they actually invited me.

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There was a group that gets together that involves Pentecostals and

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Roman Catholics and evangelicals and they said let's invite this

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Lutheran who wrote a book on the spirit to talk to us about it.

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And then we'll have some responses, you know. So it just happened last

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week and it was wonderful and here's one thing that was said that a

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stuck with me. The Roman Catholic facilitator of the dialogue said,

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well now if you had any preconceived notions or biases against

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Lutheran's writing on the spirit now you can take Leo's book,

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you know and take that with you. And the name of the book is?  It's a

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"Sculptor Spirit" the spirit as a sculptor given us the shape of Christ,

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you know. And if you want to find more about "Sculptor Spirit" by Dr.

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Sanchez you go to csl.edu and and you can find a Word and Work

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interview we did with Dr.

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Sanchez about the spirit.

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So the reason I bring that up is your an example that there are areas

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where we historically have not been very present

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theologically that that others outside of our faith tradition

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can alert us to and we can make contributions to that area from our

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experience with with with your writing. Now, one of the names that's

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going to speak at the Multi-Ethic Symposium May 4th and 5th that I

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don't know is Samuel Deressa.

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Would you inform Dale again about him? Samuel is one of us, you know, he's an

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LCMS Lutheran professor of theology at Concordia University of Saint

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Paul and formerly of the Mekane Yesus.

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He used to hold a chair there in justice and teach other Seminary.

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Mekane Yesus means? Yeah, the Mekane Yesus

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is the largest Lutheran Church in the world right in Ethiopia.

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This is the church we're talking about in the first segment that's

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growing 1000 baptisms a day, and he used to be a professor there and

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now is a Concordia University, St. Paul.  He migrated to the United States for doctoral

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studies.

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And then they kind of kept him here and he's got a cool title.

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The professor of Theology and the Global South and he's going to be giving a

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lecture and a sectional as well. And he's not talk about how we can

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engage in global conversation, you know, so Christians in the west and

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Christians in the Global South how can we nurture learning from each other.

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So I think that's going to be exciting to have Samuel Deressa with us.

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, you know, theologians or students of theology speaking,

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so. So you mentioned sectionals we heard about the Plenaries.

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What happens in a sectional break that down tell us who are some of

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the presenters excetera? So sectionals will be areas of special

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interest where you really want to focus or go more deeply into you

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know an area of learning.

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So we have three kinds of sectionals or breakout sessions.

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some on music and worship and finally some on missions evangelism the

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care of neighbors and society and so on. And because this is a mission

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we have a slightly more offerings in the on the mission side of things

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appropriately

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so . And so those are always exciting sessions to attend. We have some

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faculty from the Seminary presenting at some of those sectionals. One

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example of Abjar Baku originally from Syria.

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in our faculty and he's going to talk about reaching out to Muslim and

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Tom Park a Korean whose work with Hmong.

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of the Syriac Orthodox Church talking about the suffering Church

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before and after ISIS, you know. So what can we learn from Christians

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in the midst of suffering?

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invited.

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Javier Orozco who is the executive director of Human Dignity and

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Intercultural Affairs for the Archdiocese of St.

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contributions of Hispanic neighbors, you know to the church's life.

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So again, we have a lot of Lutheran speakers but also we have at

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times some of this outside guest to also engages in conversation about

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the Global South. One of the thoughts that goes into my head is as

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you described all these presenters is wow,

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wow, and I can't absorb all of that at one time.

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So I assume that the Multi-Ethnic Symposium is going to be archived

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at Concordia theology.

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Org so that you know, we can take as much in as

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we can on May 4th and 5th, but we can go to this again and again and

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again and then share with others am I correct?

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and made out of available sometime, you know after the event. So we hope  to

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do the same and because many of the presentations are going to be

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pre-recorded that shouldn't be too difficult.

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So we look forward to sharing that in due time.

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I've always been proud to be part of Concordia Seminary because it is

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on the cutting edge not getting cut off but we are on the cutting edge

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and this demonstrates that.

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Are you going to be presenting this year?

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Well, I'm more kind of directing traffic.

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I'm happy to do so. But I might not be presenting but I am working

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with two of the presenters on an upcoming book of articles on Global

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So we looked around and there was no book for the bringing together

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Lutherans from Asia, Latin America and Africa discussing different

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issues in theology, in music and the Arts and in missions and

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societal engagement.

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So we thought we put our brains together and do this.

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So, I'm actually go editing a book with Samuel Deressa

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over at Concordia Saint Paul and with Marcel Silva the one who

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will be speaking at the Annual Lecture in Hispanic Latino Theology. Steuernagel. Steuernagel yes.

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this book and I hope that those presentations by those two brothers

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will be there article contributions to the book.

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Well as you're expanding my mind, our minds, of we we talked about

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Mekane Yesus in Ethiopia, but you mentioned Asia, South America.

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There's growth are too?

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Africa though is the huge spot and then there's a lot of growth in

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Asia to you know. So yes, we have a lot to learn from Lutheran's in

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this places, you know. And then the questions the other Christians

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bring to us. And you're going to be putting this together in the book

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that you're co-editing.

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The book is going to focus on Lutheran voices

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you know because we we might know what Pentecostals and Catholics

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and evangelicals are saying but what are Lutherans saying? You know, we want to

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introduce Global North Lutheran Christians particularly to this voices.

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Okay so one of the things that people will often say, whether it's about

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your upcoming book or the Symposium and other events here at Concordia

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Seminary.

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Well, that's too high for me.

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You know, I'm not trained in theology.

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I don't understand what you're all talking about.

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Is this going to bring it down to a level where a guy like me a normal

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guy can understand it.

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Yes, I mean that's what we hope

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in fact for this particular book.

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What we asked all the writers is to tell us about a practice or a form

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of devotion or maybe a song or you know, something that the church's

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one on the ground in the field

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and then reflect on that.

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What can we learn from

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what you doing in Ethiopia or in Brazil so we try to make it

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practical that way. Talk about practical you mentioned music.

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Is there something about music in the Symposium that can can benefit

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us?

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Yeah, I think especially my Desales work.

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He's going to give some examples of

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expressions of the Christian faith through music and maybe what we can

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learn from that when we plan our own worship, you know. So I think

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that be interesting because usually when we do worship, you know,

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we're thinking maybe the LSB which is fine, but the LSB only

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has maybe three bilingual hymns, you know. So what are other

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resources in the Lutheran world for instance that can help us in our

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church planning? In my experience at the Seminary and also in congregations

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maybe there's only three bilingual hymns but Anglos enjoy singing

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those two once we get to know them. Yeah, absolutely here among the faculty,

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students and staff.

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We have some favorites here in Chapel because we've been singing

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for instance The Lord's Prayer, you know, we sing the Lord's Prayer in a

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bilingual format

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sometimes here at the Seminary and so we've come come to learn

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that sort of by heart, you know. You know, that's great.

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We mentioned chapel and sining the Lord's Prayer.

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We now have Spanish Bibles in the pew at Concordia Seminary and I'm

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I'm proud of that. Say habla espanol at Concordia Seminary, right?

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We're getting there. One of things I tell people is my work with the center I'm fishing in English and in Spanish people say

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really teaching in Spanish at Concordia Seminary.

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Yeah, and we have a whole bunch of instructors who are sisters with

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that.

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So that's a major.

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In fact we have as far as I know the only Master of Arts in Theology

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in the Spanish language by a Lutheran Church body that serves because

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his online serve students in Latin America too. It's always been a

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frustration to me that that the church the field by and large doesn't

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know all the Concordia Seminary is doing and that's an

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example.

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We no longer teach in German or Latin but we are teaching in

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Spanish and that's looking ahead. It's a Latin cousin but not exactly Latin.  That's right. Let's get back down to the

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nitty-gritty details.

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When is the deadline to register for this year's Multi-Ethnic

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Symposium?

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Yeah it's coming up it's April 19th we'd love to have you. April 19this the deadline so head to the

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Concordia Seminary website and register and it's only $35. Whoa,  $35?

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Only $35 for all this wealth of learning.

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So yeah, please we're making it accessible because we know it's been a

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difficult year for many people.

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So we want to make sure we don't make cost-prohibitive at this year

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especially so. And I have to put in a plug there thanks to our

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donors who are making this possible $35 a person our donors are

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helping subsidize this and and you talk about donations to Concordia

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Seminary.

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What do they do? We'll here is a prime example of that.

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So, it's April 19th.

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Tell us again where we go to register.

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Please go to www.

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csl.edu forward slash multiethnic and that's one word multiethnic or

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just go to the Seminary's website scroll down the page and look for

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events and you'll find

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an icon there for the 2021 Multi-Ethnic Symposium all online with

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live Q&A.

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That's great and a closing question is we as pastors have brother

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pastors out there.

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How is this going to help a pastor in the pressures of his ministry?

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Yeah, well, I think I think one one way in which the Symposium helps is

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that it really encourages Pastors in their work because it tells them

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look at what Jesus is doing around the world and isn't this a

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wonderful thing,

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right. Look at the growth of Christianity.

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It might not be happening where you are, but it might be happening

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somewhere else.

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So I think the part of it is still just rejoice in being part of a

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global universal church where Christ is at work. And to give thanks for

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that, you know, and that might bring in some missionary zeal in our

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lives, you know. It might enrich, you know our way of thinking about the

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mission of the church and that I think would be enormously motivating

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and empowering for a pastor and Ministry. And also keep your eyes open,

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you know, you might have those few neighbors from Chester, Illinois.

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Are you might be able to be friends with them and bring them into the

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life of the church and maybe they'd be a leader in the church.

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I like that answer.

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So so we could say it's a great time to be the church? Amen.

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Alright, thank you Doctor Sanchez for being with us and my hearty

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thanks to you our audience for joining us today. May the intersection of

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Word and Work be busy and a blessing on your corner.