WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.300 --> 00:00:26.700 Hello, welcome to Word and Work an Intersection. 2 00:00:26.700 --> 00:00:28.900 I'm your host Dale Meyer. 3 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:32.000 Today's program is going to be a little bit different. 4 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.000 We're going to be virtual. 5 00:00:35.900 --> 00:00:40.400 We're going to be talking with four guest about Concordia Seminary's 2nd 6 00:00:40.400 --> 00:00:42.900 Annual Faith and Film Festival. 7 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:50.100 How's it going to work in this era of COVID? I'm looking forword to what our 8 00:00:50.100 --> 00:00:54.000 guests are going to share because the program looks great. 9 00:00:54.000 --> 00:01:01.100 Our guest today are Heather Schultz Davis, Reverend, Jacob Wampler, Dr. 10 00:01:01.100 --> 00:01:07.000 Travis Scholl and Erica Bennett Director of Continuing Education here 11 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:08.100 at Concordia Seminary. 12 00:01:08.100 --> 00:01:15.500 So I thank the four of you for joining us in what for me, tech unsavvy 13 00:01:15.500 --> 00:01:20.500 guy that I am, is it is a new way to record a program and I thank all 14 00:01:20.500 --> 00:01:24.600 of you who are watching on video or listening on KFUO. 15 00:01:24.600 --> 00:01:31.300 So let's go around the horn Heather tell us about your background and 16 00:01:31.300 --> 00:01:33.800 how you came to be involved in the Faith and Film Festival? 17 00:01:34.600 --> 00:01:36.200 Well, thank you Dale. 18 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.000 I don't know if you know this but I actually used to write 19 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:39.800 screenplays. 20 00:01:39.800 --> 00:01:44.500 I was in the Writers Guild and all that happened before I ever came to 21 00:01:44.500 --> 00:01:44.900 faith. 22 00:01:44.900 --> 00:01:49.000 So when God called me when Christ called me himself, he called me as a 23 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:49.700 creative person. 24 00:01:49.700 --> 00:01:55.400 And now this is just a later expression of what that gift is. 25 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.100 So I gave all my time to the church doing creative things. 26 00:01:59.100 --> 00:02:03.300 I went and got my Master's and just after getting my masters I went 27 00:02:03.300 --> 00:02:06.700 to a missions conference where I met Jake Wampler, he was just at a 28 00:02:06.700 --> 00:02:12.100 seminary and we very quickly became very unlikely friends. And for five 29 00:02:12.100 --> 00:02:12.500 years 30 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:18.600 we were Facebook penpals just burning up threads primarily focused on 31 00:02:18.600 --> 00:02:19.800 the issue of film. 32 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:25.300 We shared a love of film and a love of the ability for film to help 33 00:02:25.300 --> 00:02:29.600 prepare our hearts and minds to think more missionally to grow in 34 00:02:29.600 --> 00:02:34.000 compassion to grow in recognition of the work of Jesus alive in the 35 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:34.200 world 36 00:02:34.600 --> 00:02:38.800 in non-traditional ways. And we are both kind of saddened that people in 37 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:43.600 the church seem to have either no interest in film or a contempt for 38 00:02:43.600 --> 00:02:47.200 film. And so it was in the spring of 2019 39 00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:52.000 we said we should have a festival and help people have new eyes to see 40 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.700 this and help with that education. And we brought it to the Sem and 41 00:02:56.700 --> 00:02:59.400 Erica had just stepped in it was the first week in her new position 42 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:05.200 and she did what they call In the Biz she greenlit the festival having 43 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:08.700 no idea but just being willing to hear and listen, so it's been a very 44 00:03:08.700 --> 00:03:11.100 spirit-led process all the way through. 45 00:03:11.700 --> 00:03:16.200 Well, I thank you for that background and end it for your great 46 00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:24.300 testimony to faith and faith active in works of of thought and 47 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:28.200 edification and sharing Jesus and I'm glad you're directing your 48 00:03:28.200 --> 00:03:30.700 energies also does here Concordia Seminary. 49 00:03:30.700 --> 00:03:36.300 So you mentioned meeting Reverend Wampler. Jake tell us about yourself 50 00:03:36.300 --> 00:03:42.500 where you are all you got to where you are and your interest in faith 51 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:42.900 in film? 52 00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:45.300 Yeah, thanks. 53 00:03:45.300 --> 00:03:45.600 Dr. 54 00:03:45.600 --> 00:03:45.900 Meyer. 55 00:03:45.900 --> 00:03:51.800 So I actually just took a call here to Shepherd of the Desert in 56 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:58.800 Scottsdale, Arizona about 6 months ago and I served a congregation in 57 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.200 Topeka, Kansas for six years before that. 58 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:06.000 It was my first call out of Seminary and I actually met the senior 59 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.900 pastor here is Scott Seidler at Best Practices last year right before 60 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:11.600 covid-19 hit. 61 00:04:11.600 --> 00:04:17.700 So it kind of was something that God lined up and I had no idea that I 62 00:04:17.700 --> 00:04:19.100 would be here even a year ago. 63 00:04:19.100 --> 00:04:24.700 But with that being said, you know ditto to a lot of what Heather 64 00:04:24.700 --> 00:04:30.400 said, however, you know why my background isn't officially in anything 65 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:34.700 related to you know, any of the mechanics of filmmaking. I did. 66 00:04:35.100 --> 00:04:38.400 I did work in a movie theater when I was growing up and that's really 67 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:44.300 where my love for film began working concessions working as a ticket 68 00:04:44.300 --> 00:04:48.000 taker and I also work in the booth with the actual film. 69 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:52.800 So I got to put films together as a young high school student and 70 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.300 that's kind of where I started to fall in love. And I grew up in 71 00:04:56.300 --> 00:04:57.900 Northwestern Wisconsin as well. 72 00:04:57.900 --> 00:05:01.500 And there's not a lot to do in the winter time as you can imagine and 73 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:06.200 so when I was growing up my my dad sat us down one weekend, we watched 74 00:05:06.200 --> 00:05:08.600 all the Star Wars films and then later on. 75 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.400 My mom sat us down and we watched all the Rocky films except for 5. 76 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:17.700 We don't talk about 5, but you know, it was really just watching a lot 77 00:05:17.700 --> 00:05:22.200 of great films as a kid working at the movie theater and then honing 78 00:05:22.200 --> 00:05:27.900 that as I became an adult. And I also have to give a lot of credit to 79 00:05:27.900 --> 00:05:29.200 Dr. 80 00:05:29.200 --> 00:05:34.400 Frances Rossow also known as Rev of course who stoked this love of film 81 00:05:34.400 --> 00:05:34.900 and narrative in me 82 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:40.200 as well. And that all kind of culminated in me meeting Heather and then 83 00:05:40.200 --> 00:05:40.800 where we are today. 84 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:47.800 Thanks, Jake that's interesting. When you said that you worked in movie theaters as a teenager 85 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.800 that reminded me that 86 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:56.600 my experience with movie theaters as a teenager's was taking dates 87 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:03.300 there and falling in love, not cinema, but with whoever the girl of the day was, 88 00:06:03.300 --> 00:06:04.500 you know. So yeah, 89 00:06:04.500 --> 00:06:10.300 yeah. A lot to learn about the actual side of a cinema that the Faith and 90 00:06:10.300 --> 00:06:14.800 Film is going to talk about I'm coming at it from just kind of a side. 91 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:22.100 So speaking of intelligent people in contrast to moi. Dr. 92 00:06:22.100 --> 00:06:28.000 Travis Scholl tell us about yourself and please tell me that you're not 93 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:34.100 a podiatrist? No but to have a piece of the Dr. 94 00:06:34.100 --> 00:06:38.400 Scholl empire wouldn't have been too bad but still waiting for that 95 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:38.600 check. 96 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:44.200 So I work here Concordia Seminary as the Managing Editor of 97 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:45.800 Theological Publications. 98 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:52.000 So I'm always working on resources for as we like to say the vigorous 99 00:06:52.100 --> 00:06:57.500 life of the mind in service to the gospel for church and world here at 100 00:06:57.500 --> 00:07:03.000 Concordia Seminary. And so but as far as the festival goes, I think I 101 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.200 know just enough about film history and film studies to make myself 102 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:12.500 dangerous. But my you know one of 103 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:19.800 my earliest memories is going going to see Star Wars as a really 104 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:20.200 little kid. 105 00:07:20.200 --> 00:07:24.000 I guess I probably would have been maybe four years old when Star Wars 106 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:30.200 came out and I think what interest me most about film and I've always 107 00:07:30.200 --> 00:07:36.300 loved going to the movies but you know for the 20th century going into 108 00:07:36.300 --> 00:07:40.900 the 21st century I think film is the medium by which we tell the big 109 00:07:40.900 --> 00:07:44.500 stories of our life and our culture. 110 00:07:45.200 --> 00:07:49.700 And you know we have television and now YouTube and Tik Tok to tell the 111 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:51.600 little stories of life. 112 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:57.100 We still have film the big screen literally to tell the big stories 113 00:07:57.100 --> 00:08:03.500 that tell us who we are and where we find meaning and once once that 114 00:08:03.500 --> 00:08:09.000 conversation starts, then there could be a lot of theology that goes 115 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:09.600 into that. 116 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:14.000 So I think films when they're done well can tell us a lot about 117 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:21.100 Theology and give us a lot of material to do theology with. And so 118 00:08:21.100 --> 00:08:25.300 that's what excites me about the festival as it's an opportunity and 119 00:08:25.300 --> 00:08:29.300 you know as I'm sure Heather and Jake can say much more about I don't 120 00:08:29.300 --> 00:08:33.100 think there's a lot of opportunities for people to come together to be 121 00:08:33.100 --> 00:08:39.500 able to talk about the intersection of faith and Theology and film and 122 00:08:39.500 --> 00:08:42.400 so I think that's part of what makes this festival unique. 123 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:45.200 Thank you Travis a quick question. 124 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.000 You have a PhD in what? 125 00:08:49.900 --> 00:08:55.200 So my PhD is actually an English and creative writing which is of 126 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:00.300 great help to my work here at the Seminary but it also is sort of 127 00:09:00.300 --> 00:09:05.600 gives me my literary background does help me to be able to feel like I 128 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:11.500 can't talk at least semi intelligently about film but that is on top 129 00:09:11.500 --> 00:09:13.200 of my Seminary training 130 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:19.600 of course. I am a pastor and and so the the PHD in English is on top 131 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:26.400 of of my Seminary training. So you all bring unique perspectives to the Faith and 132 00:09:26.400 --> 00:09:32.600 Film Festival. Last but not least one of the best things I did in my 15 133 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:37.300 years as president of Concordia Seminary was to appoint Erica Bennett 134 00:09:37.300 --> 00:09:43.400 as the Director of Continuing Education. Erica tell us about yourself 135 00:09:43.400 --> 00:09:47.300 and especially what your responsibilities are 136 00:09:48.100 --> 00:09:51.300 and how that applies to the faith in film festival that's coming up? 137 00:09:52.300 --> 00:09:57.400 Well, first of all, thank you Dale again for the opportunity to leave 138 00:09:57.400 --> 00:09:58.700 the Office of Continuing Education. 139 00:09:58.700 --> 00:10:03.700 I love my job, especially when things like this come up this was so 140 00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:04.100 fun. 141 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:09.200 I guess it was about a year-and-a-half ago when Heather and Jake came 142 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:14.500 to me with this fun as we said different unique idea to tie into 143 00:10:14.500 --> 00:10:17.400 continuing education and our church body. 144 00:10:17.400 --> 00:10:23.500 I unlike three of the people here in this group. 145 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:29.100 I have always enjoyed going to movies like all of you, but for the 146 00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:31.300 entertainment value. I like the atmosphere. 147 00:10:31.300 --> 00:10:37.700 I like the smells and the people watching and being with friends and 148 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:39.600 family to watch the movies. 149 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.900 I do not enjoy popcorn 150 00:10:42.900 --> 00:10:49.500 however, which my sister and my mother told me is unamerican. I will 151 00:10:49.500 --> 00:10:51.900 occasionally have movie theater popcorn 152 00:10:52.300 --> 00:10:55.700 to be a part of the atmosphere in the experience, but just a little 153 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:56.200 side note. 154 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.800 So I've never 155 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:05.100 really thought too deeply about films. I like going to him as I said, 156 00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:13.400 but never would I have thought of Christian themes in secular films 157 00:11:13.400 --> 00:11:16.600 that was just really unique to me. 158 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.500 As you mentioned. 159 00:11:18.500 --> 00:11:23.200 We are doing this year virtually, which means that participants do 160 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.200 have to watch the movies in advance. 161 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:29.700 So I have watched three of the movies that I have chosen to be a part of the 162 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:35.700 discussions and learned a lot and it really puts a different lens on 163 00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:36.000 the way 164 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.700 even I watch movies. Which is kind of fun. 165 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:44.100 There's one that I won't mention right now that I would never have 166 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:49.200 watched and I not been given this opportunity, but that's fine. 167 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.000 That'll be exciting to talk about. So ask the Director of Continuing 168 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:53.100 Education 169 00:11:53.100 --> 00:11:57.000 it's my job to pull big events like this together. 170 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.900 So as we mentioned 171 00:12:00.700 --> 00:12:04.800 a year and a half ago we started planning this. Our departments on campus 172 00:12:04.800 --> 00:12:09.100 we've call that many times the communications creative team at 173 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:13.900 Concordia Seminary as well as the audiovisual department with John 174 00:12:13.900 --> 00:12:15.300 Klinger and Ryan Arnold. 175 00:12:15.300 --> 00:12:20.900 It was like record speed to promote this to pull everything together 176 00:12:20.900 --> 00:12:24.800 for this past January. And doing it 177 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:27.700 the first time most of us had no experience pulling off of film 178 00:12:27.700 --> 00:12:33.800 festival, but it was a great success we had about 75 people total that 179 00:12:33.800 --> 00:12:40.400 showed up on a very snowy Thursday evening this past January. And I 180 00:12:40.400 --> 00:12:44.600 said, wow, we had no cancellations the fact that these people wanted 181 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:48.700 to come together for something new like this as Christian and Lutheran 182 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:53.000 really proved that even snowy weather in St. 183 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.000 Louis wasn't going to stop us. 184 00:13:00.700 --> 00:13:04.500 So that was the first Faith and Film Festival. Correct. And since that time COVID hit. Right. 185 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:12.400 What is going to be the same in the second Faith and Film Festival and 186 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:15.100 and and talk a little bit about the differences? 187 00:13:15.100 --> 00:13:17.000 Obviously, it's going to be virtual. 188 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:21.300 But what can we depend upon to be the same? 189 00:13:22.400 --> 00:13:24.700 Erica. Sure, I'll start this. 190 00:13:24.700 --> 00:13:30.200 So what is going to be the same we have a great lineup of films. 191 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.200 We have great presenters great moderators. The discussions 192 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:36.900 I think even with being virtual. 193 00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:42.700 I don't think that's going to be an issue for anyone that participates 194 00:13:42.700 --> 00:13:43.600 in this film festival. 195 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.000 Everybody's excited to do it and hear the discussions. 196 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.800 And I think it's going to still be a great Film Festival, doing it this 197 00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:58.500 way. Thank you. We're going to do this with number of times by tell us now how 198 00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:01.400 someone can register to be a participant. One of the big things with 199 00:14:04.900 --> 00:14:11.000 the first time we did it in January of 2020 was we didn't want people 200 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.800 to know in advance what the films were which was an interesting way of 201 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:21.200 doing things. This year with doing it virtually when people register on 202 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:27.000 csl.edu, they will choose the films that they want to talk about. 203 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:32.200 Mostly because they have to watch them in advance, but anyone can go to 204 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:36.400 our website and to the webpage for the Faith and Film Festival and see 205 00:14:36.400 --> 00:14:40.200 the amazing list of films that we're going to have the opportunity to 206 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.100 talk about. So they go there. 207 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:50.600 The first thing that is you can register at csl.edu and if you're not 208 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:55.400 sure about registering you don't listen to this program, but then you 209 00:14:55.400 --> 00:15:02.100 can go to that website csl.edu and learn more and hopefully be enticed 210 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:04.600 into registering for January 28th 211 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:04.800 and 212 00:15:04.900 --> 00:15:12.100 29. Let's go around the horn and hear about some of the highlights. 213 00:15:12.100 --> 00:15:12.800 Heather 214 00:15:12.800 --> 00:15:17.000 would you talk about things that you see as highlights coming up? 215 00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:22.000 Well actually doing it virtually has created some new opportunities 216 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:27.100 and one of the big ones as we were able to get an Academy Award 217 00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:32.200 nominated actor who comes from a long line of Lutheran pastors Paul 218 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:32.800 Walter Hauser. 219 00:15:32.800 --> 00:15:38.800 He's a very successful actor in Hollywood right now. Jake list off his 220 00:15:38.800 --> 00:15:39.300 credits 221 00:15:39.300 --> 00:15:42.200 I'm never good with you'll know him for my tiny the Richard 222 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.400 Jewell movie that Clint Eastwood-directed. What are his Spike Lee movies, 223 00:15:45.400 --> 00:15:50.600 Five Bloods and what else. He was also in Black Klansman as well. Black Klansman 224 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:55.200 and he is in that new Cobra Kai whatever that new Netflix show 225 00:15:55.200 --> 00:16:06.900 I was watching. Yeah, yeah he's got some upcoming stuff to yeah. Any how great guy so he agreed because it's virtual and normally we wouldn't be able to get somebody in like that. He's going to do 226 00:16:06.900 --> 00:16:12.800 a kind of a backstage interview about his life as a devout follower of 227 00:16:12.800 --> 00:16:17.500 Christ working in Hollywood at a high level and Jake is going to be 228 00:16:17.500 --> 00:16:18.300 leading up that 229 00:16:18.500 --> 00:16:21.800 virtual interview and that'll be kind of one of our big evening 230 00:16:21.800 --> 00:16:25.900 sessions that people can enjoy sewing in some ways were able to do 231 00:16:25.900 --> 00:16:27.600 things we couldn't do in person. 232 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:32.900 I think we've also been able to attract a wider range of moderators 233 00:16:32.900 --> 00:16:36.400 who wouldn't have necessarily it will certainly the covid-19 able to 234 00:16:36.400 --> 00:16:39.800 fly in but wouldn't have made it the time for but because it's virtual 235 00:16:39.800 --> 00:16:43.400 or they can pre-record a session or what have you and you'll see we 236 00:16:43.400 --> 00:16:48.100 have doubled the moderators this year from last year. Which is really 237 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:52.100 exciting new voices and the films that people get choices from are 238 00:16:52.100 --> 00:16:56.900 represent the choices they made we asked every moderator to give us, 239 00:16:56.900 --> 00:16:59.700 you know, three to five choices of what they want to lead and then we 240 00:16:59.700 --> 00:17:00.900 kind of put them together. 241 00:17:00.900 --> 00:17:04.700 So there is a good sampling of all different kinds of things and 242 00:17:04.700 --> 00:17:08.200 something for everyone and so I think the festival instead of 243 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:14.000 shrinking or being a shadow of its former self is actually expanding 244 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.000 and really teeing us up for a remarkable year 3, hopefully in person 245 00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:19.900 Thank you. 246 00:17:19.900 --> 00:17:25.590 Two things pop into my mind as you shared Heather and actually more 247 00:17:25.590 --> 00:17:28.500 things popped into my mind one is I'm a babe in the woods when it 248 00:17:28.500 --> 00:17:29.400 comes to all of this. 249 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:37.500 So I really ought to sign up at csl.edu a secondly it occurs to me 250 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:38.000 that 251 00:17:41.100 --> 00:17:43.300 there are Christians in the industry. 252 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:50.200 Lots of them I live out in LA. Hold on a little bit for us because that's not 253 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:57.000 the perception we have here in the middle west. Well it just not accurate. 254 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.800 There are so many Christians in LA there are so many people who work 255 00:18:00.800 --> 00:18:01.300 in the industry. 256 00:18:01.300 --> 00:18:07.300 One of them Josh Salzburgers joining us that he is actively involved 257 00:18:07.300 --> 00:18:09.500 with editorial and screenwriting. 258 00:18:09.500 --> 00:18:15.200 He's married to Sarah Salzburg who is one of the darlings of the youth 259 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.700 events held all the time and she teaches theology here at one of 260 00:18:19.700 --> 00:18:21.300 the high schools Orange Lutheran. 261 00:18:21.300 --> 00:18:27.700 There are there are men's meetings on any given Sunday 262 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:30.900 you know, they some we'll do it separately all Christian men working 263 00:18:30.900 --> 00:18:35.900 an industry of up to 300 people meeting in in Bible study and being 264 00:18:35.900 --> 00:18:36.000 together. 265 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:41.300 It's very common because it's it it's worth a lot of work comes from 266 00:18:41.300 --> 00:18:41.500 out here. 267 00:18:41.500 --> 00:18:44.300 So if you're living here, you may have come here to do that or did you 268 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.800 Tech work and we got lots of believers. 269 00:18:47.800 --> 00:18:54.500 That's wonderful, that's encouraging to hear reminds me of old Elijah nobody's left. 270 00:18:54.500 --> 00:19:00.000 And and the Lord says there are seven thousand in the movie industry 271 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:05.500 out in California. Travis going to you what it what are some of the 272 00:19:05.500 --> 00:19:11.700 highlights that you see. In addition everything Heather mentioned and I 273 00:19:11.700 --> 00:19:14.200 am really looking forward to the interview with Paul. 274 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:19.400 I think this is also given us an opportunity to focus on short films. 275 00:19:19.800 --> 00:19:26.600 Because many of these short films are available online for free and the the 276 00:19:26.600 --> 00:19:28.500 filmmakers of those films 277 00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:32.800 have no problem with just showing them wherever and whenever they 278 00:19:32.800 --> 00:19:37.300 can so we don't run into all those copyright intellectual property 279 00:19:37.300 --> 00:19:41.000 issues that we run into with big Studio films. 280 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.800 And so and I believe we even have some of those filmmakers who will be 281 00:19:45.800 --> 00:19:47.200 involved in sessions. 282 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:51.100 So not only do we watch the short film but then we get to talk to the 283 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:56.000 filmmaker which often isn't possible in person but doing it online 284 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.700 gives it a set of opportunity. 285 00:19:57.700 --> 00:20:02.800 So I'm really looking forward to that and then I'm looking forward to that. And then I'm looking forward to 286 00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:03.300 the film 287 00:20:03.300 --> 00:20:07.600 I myself will be moderating with Tim Saleska the Old Testament 288 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:11.400 Professor here so; which is one of my favorites of all time A River 289 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:12.000 Runs Through It. 290 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.500 So I'm really looking forward to that. 291 00:20:14.500 --> 00:20:17.500 How do you define a short film? 292 00:20:19.300 --> 00:20:22.900 I guess I'll leave that to Heather and Jake that's above my paygrade. 293 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:26.800 Okay, Jake Heather. 294 00:20:28.100 --> 00:20:32.600 Yeah, generally speaking as far as you know, the awards categories 295 00:20:32.600 --> 00:20:34.000 are concerned generally speaking 296 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.300 it's the 45 minutes or less would be a short film 45 minutes or more 297 00:20:38.300 --> 00:20:41.400 is a feature generally speaking. 298 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.200 So there are some you no exceptions to that rule 299 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:49.100 but yeah, I think that's a fantastic addition to this year's festival 300 00:20:49.100 --> 00:20:49.800 for sure. 301 00:20:49.800 --> 00:20:51.800 So I would occur echoed by Travis' thoughts on that. 302 00:20:51.800 --> 00:20:57.600 What else would you lift up for us about this year Faith and Film 303 00:20:57.600 --> 00:20:58.600 Festival, Jake? 304 00:20:59.300 --> 00:21:05.300 You know, I kind of have to throw it a couple just short pitches for 305 00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:07.700 some of my favorite folks that are involved in this. 306 00:21:07.700 --> 00:21:12.700 So first and foremost Abby Olcese, is it not a household name 307 00:21:12.700 --> 00:21:18.800 necessarily for a lot of folks, but she is just so wonderful and 308 00:21:18.800 --> 00:21:22.700 humble and she's a Kansas City-based film critic that I had the honor 309 00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:26.700 to meet because of being in Topeka, which is about an hour away from 310 00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:27.200 Kansas City. 311 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:32.900 I have been reading some stuff in Sojourners actually and she writes 312 00:21:32.900 --> 00:21:34.400 for a bunch of publications. 313 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:39.200 And I read one of the reviews I sent her a message on a lark and 314 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:42.800 she messaged me back and I asked her if she wanted to be involved in 315 00:21:42.800 --> 00:21:43.900 the Faith and Film Festival. 316 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:47.500 She said sure she was super excited and so her and I met a couple 317 00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:53.700 times in Kansas City. Saw a couple movies together and she is just such a 318 00:21:53.700 --> 00:21:54.800 great addition to this Festival. 319 00:21:54.800 --> 00:21:59.200 She's up and coming critic in the industry's. So she 320 00:21:59.300 --> 00:22:04.100 now has access to a lot of you know actors directors things like that. 321 00:22:04.100 --> 00:22:05.300 She does a lot of interviewing. 322 00:22:05.300 --> 00:22:11.100 She goes to festivals non-covid times obviously. She has a Rotten Tomatoes 323 00:22:11.100 --> 00:22:14.400 section on the film critic website. 324 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.300 So she's you know, really up-and-coming 325 00:22:18.300 --> 00:22:21.600 like I said and a fantastic addition to the festival. And then I also 326 00:22:21.600 --> 00:22:25.600 just have to throw out a shout out to my former professor and friend. 327 00:22:25.600 --> 00:22:26.100 Dr. 328 00:22:26.100 --> 00:22:29.200 David Lewis super excited to have him involved as well. 329 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:38.000 I would say that without him a lot of this wouldn't be possible because 330 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.900 you know, as far as Concordia Seminary is concerned a lot of this idea 331 00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:46.800 of the Faith and Film Festival originates with his heart for film and 332 00:22:46.800 --> 00:22:51.000 his connection to students like me you no talking in the quad about 333 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:58.300 movies and encouraging us to chase after those ideas when it comes to 334 00:22:58.300 --> 00:22:59.100 our Ministries and so. 335 00:22:59.300 --> 00:23:03.900 And I also love you know him and I we can go back and forth. 336 00:23:03.900 --> 00:23:07.300 And I mean you can throw any filming him and he could find a Christ 337 00:23:07.300 --> 00:23:07.800 figure in it. 338 00:23:07.800 --> 00:23:11.100 So that's one of his hallmarks and I just love that about him. 339 00:23:11.100 --> 00:23:13.800 That's the truth about a year ago 340 00:23:13.800 --> 00:23:21.400 We had Doctor Lewis on Word and Work and he went through movie after 341 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:21.800 movie. 342 00:23:23.300 --> 00:23:28.100 Through the lens of faith and an especially of Christ figures in 343 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:34.600 cinema and me guy from another Century who last movie 344 00:23:34.600 --> 00:23:37.600 I remember seeing was Seabiscuit. 345 00:23:37.600 --> 00:23:48.500 This whole thing is opening up just new vistas for engaging the world 346 00:23:48.500 --> 00:23:49.500 with the gospel. 347 00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:53.300 And the other side of the coin is see where the world is at without 348 00:23:53.300 --> 00:23:54.100 the gospel. 349 00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:58.600 We're going to take a short break now, please don't go too far away. 350 00:23:58.600 --> 00:24:03.400 And when we come back more about this year's Faith and Film Festival 351 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.700 at Concordia Seminary. 352 00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:08.000 Concordia Seminary St. 353 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.800 Louis provides continuing education resources for pastors and lay 354 00:24:12.800 --> 00:24:17.800 people to discover all the Concordia Seminary has for you visit us on 355 00:24:17.800 --> 00:24:20.400 the web at CSL. 356 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.200 EDU. 357 00:24:23.700 --> 00:24:26.700 Welcome back to Work and Work an Intersection. 358 00:24:26.700 --> 00:24:32.000 I'm the Dale Meyer. And we're talkin with four participants some of the 359 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:38.000 guiding lights for our Faith and Film Festival January 28th and 29th 360 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:43.500 year at Concordia Seminary. To reintroduce the four people who 361 00:24:43.500 --> 00:24:48.400 graciously are participating in today's program Heather Choate Davis. 362 00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:51.400 Reverend Jacob Wampler 363 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:53.000 Dr. 364 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:57.900 Travis Scholl and our Director of Continuing Education, Erica Bennett. 365 00:24:57.900 --> 00:24:59.800 Heather while we were on break 366 00:24:59.800 --> 00:25:04.000 you mentioned two names that you wanted to let the audience know 367 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:04.500 about. 368 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:05.500 Yeah. 369 00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:06.100 Thank you. 370 00:25:06.100 --> 00:25:07.800 I think it's their names that might be familiar to a lot of people and they're going to 371 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.000 play a key role in kicking us off and that is Bill Cwirla 372 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:19.800 And Ted Geist, both of Lutheran pastors, LCMS pastors, Bill Cwirla 373 00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:26.500 I think is on The Board of Regents at Concordia Fort Wayne and Ted 374 00:25:26.500 --> 00:25:27.900 isn't working on in Canada. 375 00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:31.900 But he used to write a for Lutheran Witness about film and I think 376 00:25:31.900 --> 00:25:36.100 also maybe did some interviews and things on KFUO, so they've been well 377 00:25:36.100 --> 00:25:40.300 known in the in the world in the Lutheran world for a while. And they 378 00:25:40.300 --> 00:25:45.200 started a wonderful podcast about 2 years ago called Bill and Ted 379 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:46.100 watch movies. 380 00:25:46.100 --> 00:25:50.400 And since you don't know about movies Dale, I'll tell you that that is 381 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:54.400 a riff on a movie called Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, which is 382 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.000 like at a teen comedy. 383 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:02.400 Anyhow, the premise is that Ted who has his MFA and is really gifted 384 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.000 knowledgeable about film another deep passion for it and examining 385 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.700 things like lighting and sound and editing and all those technical 386 00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.600 aspects that really make a film complete. 387 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:18.000 He talks with Bill Cwirla who is like you never watch his movies don't 388 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.200 know anything about movies and that you know, he's learning but they 389 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.400 discuss it, you know as the amateur and the pro. And I don't 390 00:26:25.700 --> 00:26:28.900 and yes adding a faith lens, but sometimes just talking about as a 391 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:33.300 film. And so they are going to kick off the festival with kind of a 392 00:26:33.300 --> 00:26:39.000 framing talk of showing people the kinds of things to look for so they 393 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.700 can start to widen their lens and appreciate things all throughout 394 00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:43.200 the festival. 395 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:47.400 So we're really, really glad to have them involved and it's getting to 396 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.600 be a very big tent which excites us. 397 00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:53.400 We want everyone to feel that they belong here and had something to 398 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:54.200 say and bring to the table. 399 00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:55.800 Well that's helpful. 400 00:26:55.800 --> 00:26:56.400 Thank you Heather. 401 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:01.100 I mean because honestly your this could be intimidating to somebody 402 00:27:01.100 --> 00:27:05.300 like me who thought that movies were just for dates when you're in 403 00:27:05.300 --> 00:27:10.100 high school or college and you know old man this is this is to be on 404 00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:13.100 me. But what you say is we got two guys here 405 00:27:13.500 --> 00:27:14.800 who are going to introduce 406 00:27:16.700 --> 00:27:22.800 blue collar guy like me eat to what's really going on. Erica 407 00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:26.200 I think you mentioned that there are 13 films. 408 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.400 How does this work with seeing 409 00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:33.800 the films. Good question. 410 00:27:33.800 --> 00:27:39.500 So when people go to the CSL website to register and they decide which 411 00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.100 films they want to discuss during the festival. 412 00:27:43.100 --> 00:27:48.700 So it'll be different time slots when they'll be three to four movies 413 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:51.100 being discussed at the same time during the festival. 414 00:27:51.100 --> 00:27:53.000 So there's definite choices. 415 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:59.200 So deciding what films you want to discuss and then going to your home 416 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.400 or your office or what have you and watching those films sometime 417 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.500 between now and January 28th. Some of the movies that people are 418 00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:09.700 wanting to be a part of the discussion 419 00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:12.400 they may have already seen before years ago. 420 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:19.100 Who knows, but what's going to happen is then when we all gather people 421 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:24.890 will get detailed email instructions on how to download if they need 422 00:28:24.890 --> 00:28:29.300 to but how to connect to Adobe Connect and that's where we will have 423 00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:30.400 the discussion rooms 424 00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:32.300 with the moderators and presenters. 425 00:28:33.300 --> 00:28:37.300 And this will be happening simultaneously the various rooms and 426 00:28:37.300 --> 00:28:43.100 moderators will be doing that. Travis tell us about the films you'll 427 00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:44.000 be moderating? 428 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.100 Right. 429 00:28:46.100 --> 00:28:54.100 So this year I will be in last year Tim Saleska and I moderated a film 430 00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:55.700 called First Reformed. 431 00:28:56.600 --> 00:29:00.200 Which if you haven't seen it go and see it. 432 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:05.900 It's it's a very unique film about a pastor 433 00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:09.300 and sort of his downward spiral, 434 00:29:09.300 --> 00:29:13.800 I guess you'd say. And this year we're moderating A River Runs 435 00:29:13.800 --> 00:29:19.900 Through It, which is one of my, certainly, top two movies of all time in terms of 436 00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:20.800 my own favorites. 437 00:29:20.800 --> 00:29:24.900 But one of the things that intrigued me about doing that film this year is 438 00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:32.000 it to and its own way is about a pastor but it is a hundred eighty 439 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.600 degree turn in terms of the porch rail and how the story works. And so 440 00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:44.600 I'd say but for me probably the claim to fame I would put on A River Runs 441 00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:49.900 Through It is it may be the one time where I feel the movie is 442 00:29:49.900 --> 00:29:51.400 actually better than the book. 443 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:58.800 It's based on a memoir/novella by Norman MacLean and he's the main 444 00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:04.600 character in both the book and the movie, but I actually have read the 445 00:30:04.600 --> 00:30:07.100 book several times and I 446 00:30:07.100 --> 00:30:12.100 Seen the movie even more times and and I I feel that one instance at 447 00:30:12.100 --> 00:30:14.800 least where the movie is better than the book. 448 00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:20.700 And so when people see the movie, you know the faith themes theological 449 00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:24.800 themes are going to jump out all over the place. 450 00:30:24.800 --> 00:30:29.200 And so I think it will lead to some really lively discussion. What you 451 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:35.600 say reminds me that everybody is asking faith questions not just 452 00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:40.300 church people on Sunday mornings, you know, we or something and they 453 00:30:40.300 --> 00:30:46.100 talk about whatever the faith offering is but everybody whether they 454 00:30:46.100 --> 00:30:48.800 know the church whether they know Jesus or not. 455 00:30:48.800 --> 00:30:52.800 I mean life is about trying to answer the ultimate questions. 456 00:30:52.800 --> 00:31:01.000 Right. Once you know that I think it's easier to transfer your basic 457 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.000 questions of life and that we churchgoers have 458 00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:08.900 to the movie. You know what's going on here. I'll pitch it to Jake. 459 00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:10.800 You're nodding a set with what I said. 460 00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:11.100 Woo. 461 00:31:11.100 --> 00:31:15.800 That's that makes me feel good because you're the expert. Jake tell us 462 00:31:15.800 --> 00:31:17.400 what films you're going to moderate. 463 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:23.900 So I actually have one film I'm moderating that I have not seen yet. 464 00:31:23.900 --> 00:31:28.600 So I have to admit that right off the bat, but I'll get to that one 465 00:31:28.600 --> 00:31:32.600 last. But first and foremost, I'll be moderating a film called 466 00:31:32.600 --> 00:31:37.500 Annihilation the sci-fi film from a couple years back few years back 467 00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:38.300 probably at this point. 468 00:31:38.300 --> 00:31:44.500 I would say that it's kind of like my generations 2001 A Space Odyssey 469 00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:49.600 in a lot of ways and it's it's hardcore sci-fi. 470 00:31:49.600 --> 00:31:52.900 So just kind of keep that in mind for those people that are thinking 471 00:31:52.900 --> 00:31:59.000 about signing up but it has so many themes of life, death, recreation, 472 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.700 rebirth, trauma, loss. 473 00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:04.900 It's just absolutely incredible also function some 474 00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:06.800 what as a horror horror film as well. 475 00:32:06.800 --> 00:32:12.400 So and then also going to be moderating a film in one section called 476 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:17.500 Waves and it's really about a family experiencing some pretty 477 00:32:17.500 --> 00:32:22.000 traumatic events in South Florida. And kind of the way that they 478 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.300 navigate that as a family and it actually one of the largest framing 479 00:32:27.300 --> 00:32:31.500 devices for the film is is a proper which I find to be really 480 00:32:31.500 --> 00:32:35.300 fascinating. And it's also from Trey Edward Shults who is a 481 00:32:35.300 --> 00:32:40.500 Chicago-based director, which I think is pretty cool kind of shout out 482 00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:44.700 to the Midwest there. And then I'll be doing to watch party in the 483 00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:47.500 after-hours section which were doing for the first time this year 484 00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:53.500 going to be doing a watch party of horror film called The Witch and 485 00:32:53.500 --> 00:32:56.600 I'll be doing that with Abby Olcese and then the other room will 486 00:32:56.600 --> 00:32:59.300 have Bill and Ted moderating as well. 487 00:32:59.300 --> 00:33:04.300 So that one you know viewer be warned. 488 00:33:04.800 --> 00:33:09.500 We have a disclaimer on the Registration site, but I would say 489 00:33:09.500 --> 00:33:12.600 honestly that's one of the most deeply religious films that I've seen 490 00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:13.900 in the past decade. 491 00:33:13.900 --> 00:33:18.200 There is a fascinating conversation between a father and his son 492 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.900 that's all about original sin as they are walking through the woods 493 00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:28.200 together. And it's just incredible the whole film based loosely on the 494 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:33.200 Salem Witch Trials and it's it's a really fascinating film. 495 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:34.500 I think we'll have some great discussion on it. 496 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:36.400 We're also going to be watching it together. 497 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.700 So we're going to start all at the same time and then we'll be 498 00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:42.600 chatting in the chat function on Adobe Connect while we're watching it. 499 00:33:42.600 --> 00:33:46.400 And then finally the one that I haven't seen yet is a short subject 500 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:47.700 documentary called St. 501 00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:48.500 Louis Superman. 502 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:54.200 And it's about a young man named Bruce Franks who was a state 503 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.200 representative and a activist in St. 504 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.700 Louis and how he navigates significant trauma and loss that he experienced 505 00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:03.000 early on in his life. 506 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.800 So I kind of have a lot of things that I'm doing this year, but we can 507 00:34:05.800 --> 00:34:09.700 do that because of the expanded offerings and slate that were able to 508 00:34:09.700 --> 00:34:11.700 do with the virtual Festival. 509 00:34:11.700 --> 00:34:12.900 That's great. 510 00:34:12.900 --> 00:34:16.100 Let me ask the two pastors this question. 511 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:20.300 It occurs to me that by participating in the Faith and Film Festival. 512 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:27.700 A pastor can get lots of stuff to incorporate into his preaching and 513 00:34:27.700 --> 00:34:28.000 teaching. 514 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:32.900 Could you comment on that Jake and then Travis? 515 00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:39.600 Yeah, so, you know, I often, you know, try to make sure that I'm not 516 00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:41.600 doing it every single Sunday if that makes sense. 517 00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:46.200 But with that being said, you know, I find so many little 518 00:34:46.200 --> 00:34:52.400 opportunities to weave examples from film and television into my 519 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.100 preaching and teaching a lot of times especially with confirmation 520 00:34:56.100 --> 00:34:58.700 students in the past and adult Bible studies. 521 00:34:58.700 --> 00:35:01.400 I will actually show clips from films. 522 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.100 You know, when I'm teaching sometimes if time allows our 523 00:35:06.100 --> 00:35:09.700 technology allows, I'll do the same with my preaching as well. Show 524 00:35:09.700 --> 00:35:14.000 video to kind of start off my sermon or you know, somewhere in the in 525 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.400 the body of the sermon as well. 526 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.900 So it's something that I do fairly regularly. Folks in the congregation 527 00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:20.900 that I've served. 528 00:35:21.700 --> 00:35:26.400 Would would tell you that and they can always tell when it's a Star 529 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.100 Wars movie is coming out because all the sudden I start talking about 530 00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:32.300 Star Wars a little bit more in my sermons as well. 531 00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:35.500 So I get a little excited about that 532 00:35:35.500 --> 00:35:39.800 when when those movies come around so. Travis you're you're not a 533 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.900 parish Pastor, although you do is help out in parishes, but you're the 534 00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:49.600 Managing Editor of Publications here at Concordia Seminary. Do we 535 00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:53.500 incorporate these practical things in the resources we offer to 536 00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:54.200 pastors. 537 00:35:55.300 --> 00:36:01.400 Yes to the extent we can obviously with regard to publications whether 538 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.000 that's online or in print we always have to be aware of of copyright 539 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:06.500 issues. 540 00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:09.800 So sometimes that holds us back a little bit. 541 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.000 I think I would echo everything 542 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:19.400 Jacob said I do use I try and use movies a lot in the classroom 543 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.100 showing clips or just talking. 544 00:36:22.100 --> 00:36:28.200 I think it always helps and here to in resources, you know, if you 545 00:36:28.200 --> 00:36:32.000 can't show a clip for instance, you can always describe what happens 546 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:38.100 in the scene. And I think one of the significant things that can happen 547 00:36:38.100 --> 00:36:42.000 with film is that it it will always cross generations. 548 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:48.600 So, you know if if I would bring up or show as seen from Toy Story, 549 00:36:48.600 --> 00:36:54.700 you know that conjures for children images that also now they've been 550 00:36:54.700 --> 00:36:59.100 out long enough that adults can relate to too and so it allows you to 551 00:36:59.100 --> 00:37:05.600 homiletically speaking or or in terms of teaching to cross 552 00:37:05.600 --> 00:37:10.900 generations and bring people together in interesting ways that not all 553 00:37:10.900 --> 00:37:17.400 sermon illustrations or teaching illustrations or images can do. I'm 554 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.600 smiling again because I have been proven wrong Seabiscuit was 555 00:37:22.600 --> 00:37:23.700 not the last movie 556 00:37:23.700 --> 00:37:26.300 I saw. Since Seabiscuit 557 00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:31.600 I saw what's the name of it with Dusty Crophopper, you know, the kid 558 00:37:31.600 --> 00:37:39.500 movie was that Planes with my grandkids and I enjoyed it as much 559 00:37:39.500 --> 00:37:41.600 probably more then 560 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.400 they did. And so some Sundays later 561 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.500 I was shaking hands with the church door and and a little kid goes 562 00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:53.000 through and I said, you know Dusty Crophopper. 563 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:53.900 Oh, yeah. 564 00:37:53.900 --> 00:37:54.000 Yeah. 565 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:54.100 Yeah. 566 00:37:54.100 --> 00:38:00.800 Yeah, if I'd ask about Jesus or God, you know, okay, I get the right 567 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.900 answer but Dusty Crophopper the kid lit up the kid lit up. 568 00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:11.700 Maybe I need to watch a more recent movie then Dusty and Seabiscuit 569 00:38:11.700 --> 00:38:12.900 Heather. 570 00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.100 What are you moderating? 571 00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:19.100 Well, first of all I'm going to do when I get off this call is I'm 572 00:38:19.100 --> 00:38:21.800 going to go get you signed up Erica and I are going to get all your 573 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:22.900 movies picked out and 574 00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:23.900 I'm going to send them to you. 575 00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:26.100 So we make sure you're ready to go. 576 00:38:26.100 --> 00:38:27.500 That's order one. 577 00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:30.800 I have got a full plate kind of like Jake does this year 578 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.200 because we wanted to have a lot of time 579 00:38:32.200 --> 00:38:35.300 slots an offering. I'm going to do a couple sessions of one of my 580 00:38:35.300 --> 00:38:39.300 favorite very unusual movies called Stranger Than Fiction. 581 00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:44.400 It's one of Will Ferrell's only non comedic pieces it also has Emma 582 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:49.500 Thompson, Queen Latifah, Dustin Hoffman and it gives us a chance to 583 00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:55.100 imagine your life as a narration and where the narrator and in a 584 00:38:55.100 --> 00:38:58.600 larger story and I think there's some great themes and then I'm really 585 00:38:58.600 --> 00:38:59.600 looking forward to doing that. 586 00:38:59.600 --> 00:39:04.200 I'm also going to do a movie another favorite called Whiplash from a 587 00:39:04.200 --> 00:39:09.200 few years back about it are gifted drummer in a music school. High 588 00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:14.000 level and I think the same lessons about Law and Gospel and how people 589 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.400 view 590 00:39:15.500 --> 00:39:20.900 Church the voice of the church in their ear is going to be a very 591 00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:21.900 helpful discussion. 592 00:39:21.900 --> 00:39:27.300 I'm going to be involved with two documentaries short one documentary 593 00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:29.500 short, which people will see ahead of time that I'm going to I'm going 594 00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:33.200 to moderate with Jill Bond with an excited about doing that together 595 00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:34.700 called. 596 00:39:34.700 --> 00:39:40.500 Period End of Sentence which talks about what happens when you give girls in 597 00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:43.900 3rd World countries the materials they need to be able to move freely 598 00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:47.300 through the day and get education and how that affects the whole 599 00:39:47.300 --> 00:39:53.600 community. And then one that you will watch with me called Ten Meter Tower it's 600 00:39:53.600 --> 00:39:54.600 cuz it's only 10 minutes. 601 00:39:54.600 --> 00:39:58.400 So we're all going to watch it together in the session Ten Meter Tower 602 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.800 and I think we're going to use that to discuss fear which fear I think 603 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.300 is a plague in the church. And I'm hoping that by watching something 604 00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:11.200 unrelated to the church or unrelated anything 605 00:40:11.200 --> 00:40:15.400 that's our normal missional thinking that we can we can maybe get 606 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:16.300 some new insights 607 00:40:17.100 --> 00:40:18.100 That's that's great. 608 00:40:18.100 --> 00:40:23.600 And I guess I'm signed up or I will be signed up. Oh you will be. And being retired 609 00:40:23.600 --> 00:40:28.500 you know, I'm going to have to change my shuffleboard schedule, but I 610 00:40:28.500 --> 00:40:30.800 can probably do that over at The Villages. 611 00:40:32.600 --> 00:40:34.400 We can sigh Diane up too. 612 00:40:36.100 --> 00:40:38.400 Well, and then I could put my arm around her. 613 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:39.500 Yes. 614 00:40:39.500 --> 00:40:43.300 Heather when 615 00:40:44.700 --> 00:40:49.200 you find that this is a good way to engage people in the industry 616 00:40:49.200 --> 00:40:51.700 about our faith. 617 00:40:54.200 --> 00:41:00.500 Well, I don't work in the industry now and so I don't interact in a 618 00:41:00.500 --> 00:41:05.500 regular basis of those people, but I try to spend most of my time 619 00:41:07.100 --> 00:41:11.500 with non-believers, like those are my neighbors and that's who I hang 620 00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:15.000 with and so I that's me is all long game stuff. 621 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.300 It's all relational. 622 00:41:16.300 --> 00:41:17.400 They know who I am. 623 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.590 They know what I'm about and we're going to talk about my album 624 00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:23.090 I think in a couple of weeks and I'm going to be able to tell you the 625 00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:26.590 progress that has happened with people who I've written songs for who 626 00:41:26.590 --> 00:41:30.400 aren't believers but could hear something life-giving in there and the 627 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.400 conversation that is developed from that and how that turns into its 628 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:40.100 kind of frontline relational evangelism, you know, so I think 629 00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:42.100 creativity allows for these things. 630 00:41:42.100 --> 00:41:50.500 I just tried to be present and have Christ present in me and all my 631 00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:54.700 interactions whether it's with someone who works in film or works in 632 00:41:54.700 --> 00:41:55.100 Tech. 633 00:41:55.100 --> 00:42:00.300 I have many atheist friends and that they seem to want to spend time 634 00:42:00.300 --> 00:42:00.800 with me. 635 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.900 So I just trust the Jesus Twins and wins the final round. I asked that question 636 00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:13.300 because it it seems to me that evangelism doesn't happen through the same 637 00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:17.300 techniques that we used in the 1950s. 638 00:42:17.300 --> 00:42:21.800 I mean the word of God is still the power and I get that but the 639 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:27.000 way we interact with somebody who doesn't know Jesus has changed. Jake 640 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.300 would you check me on that? 641 00:42:29.300 --> 00:42:31.500 Correct me if I'm wrong. 642 00:42:31.500 --> 00:42:33.400 Yeah. 643 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:38.100 Well, you know, it's it's really fascinating to me cuz I find that you 644 00:42:38.100 --> 00:42:42.800 know as Doctor Lewis would say, you know, and he said this in a video 645 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.000 really nice video that he put together for a last year's Festival, you 646 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.100 know film is the vernacular of our time or a vernacular of our time. 647 00:42:51.100 --> 00:42:57.400 And I really agree with that wholeheartedly because you know, it's 648 00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:58.800 just something that is a great equalizer. 649 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.800 It can create conversations with folks that we maybe never thought we 650 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.100 would have conversations with. One of the things that I 651 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.500 find myself talking to just about everybody about recently is a TV 652 00:43:12.500 --> 00:43:13.700 show called The Mandalorian. 653 00:43:13.700 --> 00:43:23.100 Everybody is watching it, everybody. Not everybody, Most everybody but it's it's 654 00:43:23.100 --> 00:43:29.300 incredible because there are religious themes in the show and when it 655 00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:33.000 when so many people are watching this gives you an intersection in, 656 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:38.000 you know, an in a place where you can insert, you know, some some of 657 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.400 your faith and the way that you watch the movie as a person or watch 658 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.300 the show as a person of faith. And you know to the industry piece if I 659 00:43:46.300 --> 00:43:50.600 could just add that onto you know, the kind of backup what Heather was 660 00:43:50.600 --> 00:43:54.400 saying as well, you know, there are very prominent filmmakers, film 661 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:59.400 critics that do this on a regular basis. Martin Scorsese being one of 662 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:04.800 them Terrence Malik, Scott Derrickson is a Marvel film director 663 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.700 prominent Christian in the industry. 664 00:44:07.100 --> 00:44:11.400 And film critics as well like Abby Olcese, Alissa Wilkinson Joel Mayward 665 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:16.600 Josh Larson, all of these people are in the industry not hiding their 666 00:44:16.600 --> 00:44:21.200 faith but incorporating in what they do and they have garnered a 667 00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:25.900 significant amount of respect. And they've done so I think just by 668 00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:30.400 being who they are and also being you know conscious of other people's 669 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:30.800 world 670 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:32.600 views and belief systems as well. 671 00:44:32.600 --> 00:44:38.400 So I think we can learn a lot from those folks as we try to navigate 672 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.100 the world and how we do this as well. 673 00:44:41.700 --> 00:44:46.100 That's great up one of the things that stuck in my mind. 674 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.300 What you said Erica. 675 00:44:51.500 --> 00:44:59.200 You said we're going to have contests that sounds like a tease to 676 00:44:59.200 --> 00:45:06.900 get us to sign up at csl.edu of the Faith and Film Festival, but tell me in 677 00:45:06.900 --> 00:45:15.500 this contest and what can I win? Okay. Correct we do have a contest that we're doing this year. 678 00:45:15.500 --> 00:45:20.700 And then we will announce the contest that we will be doing in 2022. 679 00:45:20.700 --> 00:45:24.700 So first, let's go to the one where you can potentially win something 680 00:45:24.700 --> 00:45:26.700 this year Jake 681 00:45:26.700 --> 00:45:30.000 I'm going to have you talked to what this contest this year is about 682 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.200 it's called the best movie memory or experience. 683 00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:43.500 So Jake I'll let you. Yeah, so this is basically a kind of based on a contest that I took part in when I 684 00:45:43.500 --> 00:45:45.500 was a young feeder employee and Dr. 685 00:45:45.500 --> 00:45:46.500 Meyer, you'll appreciate this. 686 00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:50.900 I won the contest by writing about how I left, 687 00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:56.500 I purposely left, a $5 bill on the counter so that a girl that I liked 688 00:45:56.500 --> 00:45:57.600 would bring it back to me. 689 00:45:57.600 --> 00:46:01.300 So that's how I won that contest when I was in high school. 690 00:46:01.300 --> 00:46:05.600 I won a scholarship and I would have gotten to go to a resort but I 691 00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:08.700 joined the Army and you know, I had to go out to basic training so I 692 00:46:08.700 --> 00:46:10.200 didn't get to go to the resort but I got the scholarship. 693 00:46:10.200 --> 00:46:15.400 So this is based on that contest that I took part in which is 694 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.100 basically right about your favorite movie experience movie going 695 00:46:20.100 --> 00:46:25.400 experience theater experience sights, smells, sounds and why is it 696 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:26.100 memorable to you? 697 00:46:26.100 --> 00:46:29.400 So I wanted to kind of riff off of that and give people the 698 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.800 opportunity to share that with us. And then out of that they have the 699 00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:39.300 opportunity to win a subscription to the newish streaming service HBO 700 00:46:39.300 --> 00:46:43.300 Max so we'll be kind of offering that 6 month subscription. 701 00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:50.600 It's a great service for a lot of prestige kind of television, but 702 00:46:50.600 --> 00:46:51.300 also a lot of 703 00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:53.900 films as well as their kind of beefing up their film catalog. 704 00:46:53.900 --> 00:46:56.800 That's one of the great things about this day and age. 705 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.600 Courtesy of my wife Diane we have a streaming service and I can go 706 00:47:03.600 --> 00:47:06.400 watch whatever I want whenever I want. 707 00:47:07.700 --> 00:47:15.600 And that also reminds me nobody wants COVID good Lord get us out of 708 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:16.000 this thing. 709 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:20.300 But here's one of the blessings, you know, we're going virtual and I 710 00:47:20.300 --> 00:47:23.500 know Erica you can talk about how all the continuing education 711 00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:28.500 offerings at Concordia Seminary have actually in a strange way been 712 00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:33.600 blessed because we had to go virtual and our registrations and 713 00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:35.800 attendance is way up, isn't it? 714 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.900 Yes, people are enjoying the opportunity to 715 00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:44.700 sit in the comfort of their homes during this pandemic to talk with 716 00:47:44.700 --> 00:47:49.800 other people about you know, Theology and faith and intersections like 717 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:50.800 we're talking about today. 718 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.400 So yes, it's been it's been wonderful. 719 00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:00.000 I think this is this is a time of great revitalization for the church 720 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.500 and it had not been for this pandemic. 721 00:48:02.500 --> 00:48:08.200 And again, no one welcomes it we wouldn't want this but the Lord is 722 00:48:08.200 --> 00:48:11.500 bringing good out of this and I think the church is really being 723 00:48:11.500 --> 00:48:16.300 revitalized in many many ways and the Faith and Film Festival is 724 00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:22.400 is testimony to the spirit working to engage the faith of Jesus the 725 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.400 person of Jesus with the way our culture is today. Erica, 726 00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.300 what are you hoping to accomplish 727 00:48:30.300 --> 00:48:39.800 when all this Festival is said and done. Well with the pandemic and coming off such a great first year. 728 00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:44.800 We had a lot of meetings about what we should do. 729 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:49.600 Should we just cancel this completely won't go into great detail, but 730 00:48:49.600 --> 00:48:53.800 we have a contract with Swank Motion Pictures who provided the films 731 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.700 for us last time and they will in 2022 of the licensing fees and so 732 00:48:58.700 --> 00:49:03.800 forth, but we what should we do? 733 00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.700 We all agreed as a committee that after having such a great kick-off 734 00:49:08.700 --> 00:49:11.000 year to the first Faith and Film Festival. 735 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.800 We needed to figure out a way to keep the momentum going. 736 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:20.000 So I my boss Chuck Aaron would tell you that I'm always about making 737 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.800 sure we can find opportunities to save money and make money for 738 00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:24.700 Concordia Seminary. 739 00:49:24.700 --> 00:49:27.500 It comes for my retail background. 740 00:49:27.500 --> 00:49:29.600 And so I was like well, 741 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.600 we've got to still make sure this is financially a sound decision. 742 00:49:35.600 --> 00:49:40.700 So in the end we said, you know what even if we just gather a small 743 00:49:40.700 --> 00:49:45.700 group of people and we just keep the momentum going Heather and Jacob have 744 00:49:45.700 --> 00:49:49.400 been doing a great job this whole year with keeping this momentum 745 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:54.700 going with a Faith and Film Festival Facebook page. And a lot of the people 746 00:49:54.700 --> 00:49:59.300 that came last year have been on that commenting and posting and new 747 00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:00.500 people are doing it as well. 748 00:50:00.500 --> 00:50:03.700 And I'm sure some of the people that have signed up for this year's 749 00:50:03.700 --> 00:50:05.000 Faith and Film Festival 750 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.800 it was because of the social media and the Facebook. So we are doing 751 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.800 this and I'm also ever the optimist I am prayerfully hoping that in 752 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:16.800 2022 753 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.800 we can all come back together on Concordia Seminary campus with Swank 754 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.500 Motion Pictures being involved St. 755 00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:27.600 Louis company, by the way. And just have this I mean, I don't know 756 00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:27.800 Heather 757 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:29.100 what do you think a 100, 758 00:50:29.900 --> 00:50:34.700 150 people two hundred people next year gathered at the Seminary. 759 00:50:34.700 --> 00:50:41.700 Well, I was going to say we're going to have 300 people the following year, but I'm not sure we have 760 00:50:41.700 --> 00:50:42.400 enough rooms. 761 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:43.100 We better get ready. 762 00:50:43.100 --> 00:50:44.000 We got to get Ryan. 763 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.400 That's what I need some more equipment. 764 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.400 Yes, 765 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.600 absolutely a good problem to have right. 766 00:50:49.600 --> 00:50:54.500 Well, I'm sure the president will facilitate that. Whoever the Lord directs to 767 00:50:54.500 --> 00:50:59.100 be the president of the Seminary and God bless that process too. Let's 768 00:50:59.100 --> 00:51:01.900 go around one last time we heard from Erica. 769 00:51:01.900 --> 00:51:05.600 Give us a final word Doctor Scholl. 770 00:51:06.100 --> 00:51:12.200 Yeah, you know if I could make one final pitch, I think an unintended 771 00:51:12.200 --> 00:51:16.900 blessing that the Seminary the Campus Community I think itself has 772 00:51:16.900 --> 00:51:20.400 experienced from this festival is to see people come out of the woodwork that 773 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.100 you didn't know. 774 00:51:21.100 --> 00:51:24.000 So, you know, Dr. 775 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.900 Lewis is known as this film buff on campus, but you know, we have our 776 00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:30.100 own film maker on campus as well, 777 00:51:30.100 --> 00:51:35.300 Dale Ward our Senior Media Producer makes films and he's become an 778 00:51:35.300 --> 00:51:39.400 important part of this Festival. And Ryan Arnold who works in IT. 779 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:46.100 We discovered has his own film critic blog and talks a lot about films 780 00:51:46.100 --> 00:51:47.100 on social media. 781 00:51:47.100 --> 00:51:51.200 And so it's been interesting to see how that's enlivened our community 782 00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:54.700 which I would say to any Pastor who's watching 783 00:51:55.100 --> 00:51:59.500 or listening if you would bring up the festival to your congregation. 784 00:51:59.500 --> 00:52:03.900 You are going to find some film buffs in your congregation and you can 785 00:52:03.900 --> 00:52:08.500 share this experience with them. And it can lead to all sorts of 786 00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:12.800 conversations you can have in your congregation and to any lay person 787 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:19.000 who's watching or listening who likes movies you can find here a 788 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:25.600 community of people who are just as engaged as you are and and so we 789 00:52:25.600 --> 00:52:29.900 welcome you to the communities. So I fully see with us being 790 00:52:29.900 --> 00:52:30.600 online this year 791 00:52:30.600 --> 00:52:31.700 this is going to grow. 792 00:52:31.700 --> 00:52:37.600 And then when we get back to an in-person event, I would imagine we'll 793 00:52:37.600 --> 00:52:40.800 still have online components to it just because there's so many 794 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:46.100 advantages that that having a virtual component to an event like this 795 00:52:46.100 --> 00:52:48.800 would bring to it so that's my pitch. 796 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.500 That's great. 797 00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:53.900 And the end the pitch to pastors is a good idea. Promote 798 00:52:55.100 --> 00:53:00.200 this in your congregation because there are people sitting in your 799 00:53:00.200 --> 00:53:06.700 pews or watching you online who would want to participate in this and 800 00:53:06.700 --> 00:53:09.900 speaking of pastors final word from Pastor Wampler. 801 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:15.400 Yeah, well then maybe to the other side of the you know, encouraging 802 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:22.900 pastors coin I would also as the son of two devout laypeople my dad 803 00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:24.700 works in a factory and my mom works in the hospital. 804 00:53:24.700 --> 00:53:29.700 They were the ones that originally, you know stoked this love of film 805 00:53:29.700 --> 00:53:30.100 in me. 806 00:53:30.100 --> 00:53:35.200 And so I would encourage lay people as well to check this out and you 807 00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:36.100 know, give it a try. 808 00:53:36.100 --> 00:53:42.100 This festival is great because it is for literally anybody. Anybody can 809 00:53:42.100 --> 00:53:46.200 sign up and take part in these discussions and watch the film's 810 00:53:46.200 --> 00:53:48.200 there's no elitism. 811 00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:52.800 There is no prerequisites other than just watching the films and it's 812 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:55.700 always a great time for people to get started. 813 00:53:55.700 --> 00:53:59.700 So that's kind of how I always talk about movies with everybody that I 814 00:53:59.700 --> 00:54:01.800 run into. Its, you know, people often times 815 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:03.200 say I don't understand or 816 00:54:03.200 --> 00:54:06.300 I don't know what is well as you doing and that's totally fine with me 817 00:54:06.300 --> 00:54:10.900 because oftentimes I like to live through people that 818 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.500 haven't seen a ton of movies because I want to go back to that point 819 00:54:14.500 --> 00:54:17.700 that magical stage when I hadn't seen a lot yet. 820 00:54:17.700 --> 00:54:21.600 So just for anybody lay people included we had some fantastic lay 821 00:54:21.600 --> 00:54:24.400 people join us the first year as well. 822 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:25.000 Thank you. 823 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.600 I'm not I'm sure our audience hears that I'm trying to take it 824 00:54:28.600 --> 00:54:29.900 personally here. 825 00:54:29.900 --> 00:54:35.900 I don't go to movies very much anymore and never did but you know, the 826 00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:40.000 highlight of my life is getting out my old View-Master and and looking 827 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.700 at View-Master click click click click click. 828 00:54:42.700 --> 00:54:46.300 And if you don't know what that is, it's a generation thing. 829 00:54:46.300 --> 00:54:49.300 Okay final word from Heather Choate Davis. 830 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:56.400 Well now I'm going to put my admin hat on because all the other stuff 831 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.700 is really been said what I am hoping is that when people hear this 832 00:55:01.700 --> 00:55:07.600 today, they're very intentional about going, looking, making a decision, 833 00:55:07.600 --> 00:55:11.700 signing up, picking your films because we're now getting to be 3 weeks 834 00:55:11.700 --> 00:55:17.600 off and that only downside to this is it doesn't allow for people to 835 00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:18.700 the day before go. 836 00:55:18.700 --> 00:55:19.100 O yeah, 837 00:55:19.100 --> 00:55:20.200 what is that thing? 838 00:55:20.200 --> 00:55:26.800 When is it? O yeah, and how do I log on and it it takes some advance 839 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:31.100 commitment, you know. You need to set the time to watch the film's you 840 00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:33.400 need to make sure you have the right software on your computer 841 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:37.500 so you're ready to participate. And so I don't want anyone to know who 842 00:55:37.500 --> 00:55:43.000 is be interested to be a little lazy in their planning and miss out on 843 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.900 the chance cuz we won't be able to help you down down the road when he 844 00:55:45.900 --> 00:55:46.400 gets that close. 845 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.800 You're going to have to be intentional. And I would also just say that 846 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.800 you don't have to do we have offerings 847 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.100 starting Thursday midday and going until Friday night. 848 00:55:55.100 --> 00:55:57.300 You don't have to do all of them. 849 00:55:57.300 --> 00:55:58.200 We gave all the time 850 00:55:58.200 --> 00:56:00.200 slots cuz we've got people in different time zones. 851 00:56:00.200 --> 00:56:05.400 You can go on its only $20 and say I want to discuss three movies and 852 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.700 sign up for those and that's all you have to do. 853 00:56:07.700 --> 00:56:10.500 You don't have to pick something and every slide it doesn't have to be 854 00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:11.000 a burden. 855 00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:15.000 And so I think there's a lot of flexibility but you lose your 856 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.500 flexibility if you wait till the day before the festival cuz then it's 857 00:56:18.500 --> 00:56:25.100 over, you can't participate. That's a great note on which to end this episode of Word and Work. 858 00:56:25.100 --> 00:56:25.800 I thank you Heather. 859 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:29.500 I thank all our guests for being with us today. 860 00:56:29.500 --> 00:56:30.500 Obviously 861 00:56:30.500 --> 00:56:34.800 it's been an eye opener to me and when I participate in the 862 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:38.700 festival, I'm sure that I'll be doing a lot of talk not only about the 863 00:56:38.700 --> 00:56:42.400 Faith and Film Festival in the months to come but also about the the 864 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.200 insights that I learned about my faith in life. 865 00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:49.200 We want to thank you for joining us dear members of the audience. 866 00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:51.600 This has been Word and Work 867 00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:57.400 an Intersection. And may that intersection of Word and Work be busy and 868 00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.000 blessed on your corner.