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Greetings, everyone. It's a pleasure to be

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with you again as we turn again to a

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favorite of mine, as most of you know. The

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Gospel according to John, we're going to

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be reading this time from chapter 7. Our

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focus will be verses 37 through 39. So the

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text is before us, both in the Greek and

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in the ESV. I'm going to start in perhaps

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a somewhat unusual way, kind of out of our

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usual previous pattern, that is. I'm going

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to start with our time together and our

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consideration of this text with the ESV.

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Let's just read from the ESV. Then what

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I'd like to do, once we've had a chance to

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start with that, is to turn to a fine

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commentary available to us all. The

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commentary by my former teacher and

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current good friend, Bill Weinrich, from

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the Fort Wayne Seminary. Bill Weinrich's,

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you know, now two-volume commentary on

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John that will soon become a three-volume

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commentary on John. His treatment of

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chapter 7 appears in volume 2 of his

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commentary.

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It's hard for me to overstate

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the significance of Bill's work in his

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commentary on chapter 7. You know, his

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volume 2 and its treatment of chapter 7 is

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just outstanding. So we'll take a look at

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Weinrich, and I'll encourage you to access

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Weinrich. We won't be able to capture

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everything that Weinrich says about the

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Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, or

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these verses here in verses 37 through 39.

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But what we will have time and opportunity

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to do is to alert you to a number of very

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fine considerations expressed by Weinrich.

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And then with, you know, your future

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consideration and preaching and teaching

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from this text, you might very profitably

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consider taking a look at the fuller

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treatment of chapter 7 available to you in

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Weinrich's commentary, volume 2. You know,

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yeah, we won't have time to highlight

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everything. And for more, if interested,

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and I certainly hope that you will be

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stimulated to have interest, see Weinrich.

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Consult Weinrich. It's just really, really

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good. And you can't say that about, you

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know, every available resource out there

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these days. But Weinrich is outstanding,

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so highly recommend. Okay, and last of

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all, we'll take a look at the Greek. And

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we'll notice some things that really need

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to be called to our attention, from the

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Greek especially. This will send us back

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to available English translations,

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noticing what they do and what they don't

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critically engage the Greek and available

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English translations, we have the capacity

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to independently choose for ourselves how

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best to understand this text, how best to

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translate this text, how best to preach

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and teach from this text. First, the ESV,

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starting with verse 37. This is chapter 7,

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right? This is chapter 7 and the Feast of

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Tabernacles, right? Otherwise known as the

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John is exceptional in this regard. John

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alone features attention paid, a story

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told, whose setting is this feast. John

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alone talks about this feast. John alone

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tells us a story that includes the story

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of Jesus' observance of this feast. Jesus

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at the feast, right? For more, be sure to

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read the entire chapter 7. But for now,

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for today, for our time just now, verses

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37 to 39. The ESV reads as follows. It's

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of the feast. Comma. And feasts in Jesus'

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routinely week-long feasts, right? This

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one was also. Others were also. So, what

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the conclusion of the feast, the last

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great day of the feast, right? And what

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Jesus did that day, in summing terms, in

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the environment of that feast. You know,

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we should say this about feasts, all of

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them, not just this one. Feasts recalls

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sacred, foreshadowing past. Feasts recall

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the past, affirm the present, and await

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the promise of a blessed future. Right?

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the suggestion of a glorious future? Well,

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just a second. On the last day of the

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feast. Comma. The great day. Yeah, you

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a good time for us to remember that the

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earliest manuscripts of this and the rest

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of the text of the New Testament, they

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weren't punctuated manuscripts.

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correct punctuation of a text can be less

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than clear. Can involve a very serious

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consideration of available options. This

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is going to be one of those texts. he

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marks, if anyone thirsts, let him come to

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me and drink, period. Or at least, you

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translators, period. Whoever believes in

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scripture has said, comma. Then there's a

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internal citation and the external one.

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was not yet glorified, period. That's for

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the text, right? Tabernacles, tabernacles,

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not only do we only read about tabernacles

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here in the Gospel of John, there isn't a

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lot for us to find elsewhere in scripture

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regarding tabernacles. Most, it's safe, I

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suppose, for us to reasonably imagine that

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most don't know anything at all about

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tabernacles. So, Weinreich, and what

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Weinreich brings to our attention

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regarding tabernacles so that our

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understanding of this feast can

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significantly inform our reading of the

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text, because it really needs to inform

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our reading of the text.

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Weinreich, volume two, starting on page

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47, under the heading commentary, living

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water shall flow from his side. Weinreich

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observes the following. During the Feast

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of Tabernacles, John 7, verse 2, Jesus was

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teaching in the temple. Well, yeah, that's

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where festivals happen. This was a most

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significant location for his teaching, for

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Tabernacles celebrated the protection of

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God's of Israel during Israel's sojourn in

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the wilderness. Tabernacles recalled

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celebrated God's protection of Israel as

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it sojourned in the wilderness, and the

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festival also looked forward. Tabernacles,

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you know, feasts remember the past, affirm

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the present, look to the suggestion of a

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promise of a blessed future. So,

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Tabernacles looked forward to the final

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dwelling of God in the restored temple

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when Israel would live as though in a new

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paradise. You know, Israel in the desert,

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challenging.

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God's gracious protection of Israel in the

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wilderness. The assurance that God was

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leading Israel into its reception of a

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land of promise flowing with milk and

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honey. It's going to be a good place. It's

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going to be a good life, right? The

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circumstances of Israel's earlier sojourn,

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the circumstances of Israel's current

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sojourn, you know, in the imperial world

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of Rome in Jesus' day, the anticipated

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future when Israel's experience will no

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longer be a wilderness experience.

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Instead, Israel's experience will be a

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paradisal experience, a return to the

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garden, right? A renewed and restored

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garden-like existence for the people of

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God. For this, Israel waits. The prophet

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Zechariah spoke of this future time.

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Zechariah reads as follows, And on that

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day, living waters shall flow out of

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Jerusalem, half of them to the eastern

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sea, and half of them to the western sea.

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It shall continue in summer as in winter.

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There won't be a summer or a winter. And

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the Lord will become king over all the

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earth. On that day, the Lord will be one,

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and his name one. And Jerusalem shall

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dwell in security, declares Zechariah.

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Back to Weinreich. Here we see together

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the ideas of forgiveness for previous

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idolatry, the return of an exiled Israel

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to the land, the restoration of Israel

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under the Messianic king, the new

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obedience of a right worship which

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recognizes the God of Israel alone, and

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the security of Jerusalem under the divine

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protection of the Lord. A major

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celebration during tabernacles was the

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drawing of water, which gave liturgical

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expression to these hopes. A blessed day,

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a blessed day, a well-watered garden, you

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know, the waters of redemption, and so on.

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It was in the context of this tabernacle

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celebration with its water liturgy, that

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Jesus on the last day, the great day of

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the feast, rises up and cries out, If

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anyone should thirst, let him come to me,

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and let him who believes in me drink.

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Perhaps you're already noticing

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Weinreich's manner of translating the text

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and how it contrasts with the ESV

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presentation of the text. We'll say more

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in a bit. To ensure that the reader

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understands the words of Jesus, the

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evangelist intrudes here in verse 39,

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right? The evangelist intrudes to give

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interpretation. Not only does the

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scripture give the necessary background to

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Jesus' words, but Jesus is also

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foretelling the future gift of the Spirit,

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which he shall give to those who believe

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in him. This gift of the Spirit, however,

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will not occur until Jesus has been

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glorified. According to Leviticus 23, the

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feast of tabernacles is to last for seven

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days. As we mentioned. This is also

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indicated in Deuteronomy 16. Yet there is

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also to be an eighth day on which a holy

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convocation must be held and no work may

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be done. This too wasn't terribly unusual.

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Extra days. The last, the great day of the

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feast, refers to the seventh day of the

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festival, or to the eighth, you know,

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perhaps. What is, however, of primary

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importance is that Jesus assigns to

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himself the significance of the water

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libation, the water liturgy, the ritual of

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the water. You know, always observed each

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year with the ritual observance of

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tabernacles. Just as the pious Israelite

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must come to Jerusalem and to the temple

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to celebrate the feast of tabernacles, so

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Jesus now in the midst of the festival

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cries out and invites anyone who thirsts

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to come to him and drink. He is the source

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of living water. During the seven days of

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the feast, priests would process from the

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temple mount, from the temple then, to the

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pool of Siloam, which is on the southern

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tip of the city. This is no small trek.

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And there they would fill a golden flagon

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with water from the pool of Siloam. This

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was carried in procession, ritual

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procession, back up to the temple mount,

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through the water gate, into the inner

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court. As the choir chanted the Hallel,

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Psalms 113 through 118, the priests would

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process around the altar with the flag in

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the water. As the choir reached the climax

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of the Hallel, Psalm 118, verses 24 to 25.

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Check that Psalm. The pilgrims, you know,

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shook their palm

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branches and other kinds of branches. You

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know, such things are used on Palm Sunday

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when Jesus enters into the city for the

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last time. And such things were also used

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in ritual fashion with the festivals, with

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the other festivals, with this one,

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Tabernacles. So they shook these things

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and the water was poured along with wine

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into silver bowls, which in turn were

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poured out onto the altar. The water from

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the flask was associated with the waters

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of creation. With the water from the rock

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in the wilderness. You know, notice the

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waters of creation. When the Lord creates

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Adam, right, what else goes on? You know,

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a well in the garden wells up with water

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and the waters penetrate all things,

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spread to all things. It's a well-watered

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place. Such a thing has great meaning to a

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desert, you know, a desert people. A

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people used to, you know, wilderness

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wanderings and a life otherwise eked out

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in a semi-era desert. You know, water is

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everything. Water is life. Without water,

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there is no life. With water, there is

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life. Notice the water with the creation

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narrative. Notice the gift of water during

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the wilderness wanderings, especially from

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the rock, right? Moses strikes the rock

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and outpours water, you know. These

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rituals, Tabernacles, recalling the

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wilderness wandering, recalling God's

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gracious preservation, recalling the gift

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of water in the wilderness and other

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things too. God's gracious preservation

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through these means in suggestive terms,

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right? All of this is precisely what

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Tabernacles was designed to recall, to

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celebrate, and to anticipate as Israel

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awaited its promise of a blessed future, a

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return to these things. These things in

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eschatological abundance with the coming

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of the not yet, right? With the coming of

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the day of the Lord. With the coming of

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Messiah. The water from the flask was

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associated with the earliest waters of

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creation. It was also associated with the

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water from the rock in the wilderness. And

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the rock was Christ, right? And finally,

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also with the waters that would flow from

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the eschatological temple, Zechariah,

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Ezekiel, you know, the apocalypse, John's

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apocalypse. The New Jerusalem descends

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from heaven above. The New Jerusalem is a

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garden-like place. Throughout the garden

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-like place. A river flows. A river

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flowing from the throne of the Lamb,

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right? Wow. All of these things in

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abundance in final terms. All of these

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things defining, enlivening, and

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sustaining the place. The people of the

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place. Everything in the place, right? A

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river ran through it, right? Thus, in

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identifying himself with the water of

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tabernacles, Jesus identifies himself as

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the reality and substance of Israel's

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redemption, and indeed as that of all

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humankind. The theology of tabernacles was

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essentially that of exile, you know, and

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restoration, which in turn was based on

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the Genesis story of Adam's sin, which had

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caused paradise to become a desert, right?

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According to the Septuagint, the making of

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a living man through the breath of God is

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intimately associated with a fountain, you

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know, the fountain welling up and watering

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the place. The fountain blessing also the

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making of the man. Associated with a

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fountain which comes from the earth and

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waters the whole of the earth, right? This

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leads a meeting, but yeah, check that.

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Genesis 2, verses 4 to 7. A frequently

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neglected aspect of the creation

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narrative. A river ran through it, you

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know? A fountain wells up, and the result

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is waters watering the place. This leads

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immediately to a description of paradise,

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which is richly watered and filled with

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every tree good for food. Genesis 2, 8 to

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17. When Adam transgresses God's command,

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however, this paradise is reduced to a

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land of thorns and thistles, which resists

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the labor of man, so that he must toil in

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the sweat of his brow. Human sin,

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therefore, causes the paradisial waters to

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cease, and likewise the lush plant life

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that accompanied them with, if there is no

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water, there is no life. In view of this

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prototypical story, it is not surprising

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that prophetic visions of a restored

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Israel or of a restored humanity may be

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couched in terms of, you know, just this

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thing, right? Couched in the celebration

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of tabernacles in just these terms, right?

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So when Jesus rises up and cries out, you

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know, and offers himself as the source of

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these things, right, the preeminent and

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final source of these things, he's

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declaring himself to be the fulfillment of

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the hope of this festival and every other

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festival, you know, that informed the

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faith, hope, and expectation of the people

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of God. You know, only when we see Jesus'

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actions and words in these terms, you

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know, in the context of the hope of these

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festival things, do the words and the

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deeds come to life. Thus far, our friend

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Bill Weinrich, outstanding commentary,

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substantial stuff, worthy of our time and

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our effort. In every way. Check it out. He

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has so much more to say about tabernacles

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and so much more to say about John 7. So,

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but for our purposes today, looking at our

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time to see how we're doing, we've got a

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decent half an hour or so still to work

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with, and that should be sufficient. The

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text is smallish, fewer verses, but still

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there's plenty for us to talk about. Verse

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37. I'll try to remember to move my cursor

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around to make sure that we're all, you

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know, focusing on the same thing. Okay.

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En, de, te, es, chate, hemera. Okay. En,

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on, and, you know, en plus the dative here

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specifies a time. The ESV translates

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reasonably. On the last day. Notice that

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the ESV kind of dispenses with the

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conjunction. The ESV does this a lot. It's

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true that not every conjunction in the New

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Testament has translational value, but

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excuse me, this one does. Now, then, and,

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but. De marks a transition to a new unit

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of text, a new kind of moment in the

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narrative.

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Now, perhaps. Now, on the last day, right?

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Te es, chate, hemera. Te megale. The great

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one, right? Notice that all te, dative,

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es, chate, dative, hemera, dative, te,

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megale. It's all in the dative, right?

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Now, what the ESV prefers to do, others

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have also done. It's not a particularly

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questionable move, but it's not the only

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option. They take te megale to be in

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apposition. Now, on the last day, comma,

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the great one, the great day. They're

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taking megale to be a dative of

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apposition. They're taking megale to be a

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substantized adjective, right? On the last

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day, comma, the great day, comma, right?

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And they even supply what they consider to

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be the understood noun here with the

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substantized adjective. And we should

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mention, we should notice, the article

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will regularly substantize elements that

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aren't initially substantive nouns. And

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they can make things function as nouns.

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And this could be happening here. The ESV

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may well be correct with its judgments and

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its thinking regarding, you know, the

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second use of an adjective, right? There's

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the noun. There's the object of the

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preposition. On the day. There's an

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adjective. ES-CHATE. There's another

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adjective. Megale. Last. Great. Perhaps

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you're already, you know, kind of seeing

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what I'm meaning to suggest as an

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available second option. Perhaps even a,

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dare I say it, preferred option.

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For those, you know, who've worked

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diligently with our friend Jim Veltz's

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fundamental Greek grammar, we'll talk the

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way Veltz talks about this. There are two

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different ways for an adjective to

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function adjectivally. We're looking at

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both of them here. The first, the first

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adjective, excuse me, I'm going to get

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some water.

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The first adjective, ES-CHATE, is an

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attributive position. It's between the

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article, te, and the noun that the article

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modifies, he-mera. This is one way to do

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attributive position. This is one way to

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make an adjective function as an

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adjective, you know, adjectivally

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modifying a noun, you know, on the last

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day. Okay. Veltz calls this sandwich

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position. Think of the Oreo cookie, you

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know, right? The article is, you know, one

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side of the Oreo cookie, the noun is the

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other side, and the adjective is the

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creamy white stuff in the middle. Sandwich

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position. What's the other way for us to

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adjectivally modify a noun with an

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adjective? Well, actually, the second

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adjective, Megale, is precisely this other

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option, right? Sandwich position is

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common, ES-CHATE. What is also common, and

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rather Semitic, actually, if you know a

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little bit of Hebrew or Aramaic, you know,

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a noun followed by an adjective is common

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in the Semitic world of Jesus, right? It's

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also an option in the Greco-Roman world of

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the, you know, the imperial present of

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Jesus and his contemporaries. Megale is in

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what Veltz calls repeat position, right?

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So, sandwich means the adjective appears,

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you know, after the article, between the

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article and the noun. Repeat is also

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attributive position, is also an adjective

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functioning potentially adjectivally.

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What's repeating? Answer, the article. An

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article before ES-CHATE, a repeat use of

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the article after the noun and before

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Megale, so that, you know, actually, the

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other option here for Megale is that this

523
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200
is an attributive position. It's not,

524
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
which means it's not functioning as a

525
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
substantive. Instead, it's functioning as

526
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,760
an adjective, adjectivally also modifying

527
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,680
a mirror. This is how you could quite

528
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,840
nicely use both options, sandwich position

529
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,880
and repeat position, to modify a single

530
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:19,120
noun. On the last great day. Oh. Okay. Why

531
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:26,000
not? Why not? So, we bring that to our

532
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,120
attention. I'm going to prefer the latter

533
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,680
option.

534
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,720
You can decide what you prefer. On the

535
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,000
last great day, taste or taste of the

536
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,200
feast, right? Prior context has been

537
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,360
detailing in significant terms. You know,

538
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
the coming of the feast, the arrival of

539
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
the feast, pilgrims, you know, going to

540
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
the feast. Jesus' brother's going to the

541
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,120
feast. Jesus going in a later time to the

542
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,800
feast. Jesus' standing up in the middle of

543
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280
the feast to proclaim certain things. Now

544
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280
he's standing up again, in all likelihood,

545
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,880
in the temple again. On the last great day

546
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,920
of the feast, to speak to last great

547
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,760
things. Right? On the last great day of

548
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,280
the feast, he's taking a Jesus. By the

549
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:38,360
way, as I reach back here, if you hover

550
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,360
over he's taking a, what does the little

551
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,240
window tell you about the verb? It's a

552
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720
form of histame.

553
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,240
And histame, this is chapter 35.

554
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,560
That's chapter 35. Me verbs part three,

555
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,840
histame. A worthy read, a worthy form of

556
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,679
review. Why? Because histame is a busy

557
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:25,400
verb. In the lexicon, you'll see this too.

558
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,400
Histame can and will do one of two

559
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
different things. Sometimes it will be

560
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,040
transitive, which means it'll take a

561
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,600
direct object. You know, I stand the water

562
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,320
bottle on my desk. Right? That's

563
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,719
transitive. Intransitive. Intransitive. I

564
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,199
stand. Right? I stand up. Or I just stand.

565
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,239
I remain standing. You know? That's

566
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,520
intransitive. The intransitive forms of

567
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,400
histame don't take a direct object. They

568
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,920
describe an action. They describe an

569
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
action. They describe, you know, a thing

570
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040
enduring. I am standing and I'm going to

571
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,040
keep on standing.

572
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Transitive versus intransitive.

573
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,560
This explains why histame actually has

574
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,000
some unusual principal parts. First,

575
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,960
second, third, fourth. Histame, first

576
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,080
principal part. Stay so, the future.

577
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,920
Second principal part. But when you turn

578
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,000
to the third principal part, what do you

579
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:54,600
run into? Two available forms. Estame, a

580
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,280
strong heiress. And estesa, a weak

581
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,960
heiress. Well, that's weird. How many

582
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,920
other verbs have two available forms in

583
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160
the heiress? And then there's hesdeka, the

584
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,920
perfect. Hesdeka. There's a reason why I'm

585
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,200
mentioning the fourth principal part. But

586
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,520
before we get to the perfect and back to

587
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,560
the text, it's helpful for us to remember,

588
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,600
you know, not just that histame can do

589
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,800
this. It can be transitive or it can be

590
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,440
intransitive. It has stereotyped forms

591
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,120
assigned to transitive and intransitive.

592
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Which forms are these?

593
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,200
The transitive forms of histame are as

594
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,960
follows. Present active, imperfect active,

595
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,720
future active, and the weak heiress

596
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:13,960
active. So estesa, that one option in the

597
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,840
heiress, is transitive and estame is

598
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:27,160
intransitive. Let's see. Well, for more,

599
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,680
all of the other forms, I'm looking for a

600
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,560
way to summarize quickly. You know, we

601
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
mentioned the forms that are transitive.

602
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,440
The other forms are intransitive. The

603
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,240
other forms are intransitive. And because

604
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:50,840
this is so, right, estesa is intransitive.

605
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Sorry, estesa is transitive. Estame is

606
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520
intransitive. What about the perfect? It's

607
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,240
intransitive. Intransitive. What about the

608
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,040
Ayer's passive?

609
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Not only are these other forms

610
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,800
intransitive, because we need, you know,

611
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
present time forms, past time forms,

612
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,720
future forms, these other forms that are

613
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:26,920
intransitive have stereotyped time senses

614
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,840
attached to them.

615
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Wow. So that a full complement of

616
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,720
transitive forms with, you know, necessary

617
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:43,640
time senses attached to them is available

618
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,440
for both transitive and intransitive. What

619
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:55,000
am I saying? The perfect, this will not be

620
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,680
anticipated exactly. The perfect has a

621
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,200
present time sense, and it's intransitive.

622
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,720
The pluperfect has a time sense equivalent

623
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:14,560
to an imperfect, you know, and it's

624
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,040
intransitive. Oh, my goodness. So, you

625
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,680
know, with histamine, a person needs to

626
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,680
ask two questions. Is it transitive or

627
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,160
intransitive? And it's form-specific,

628
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,840
right? It's not like a single form can do

629
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,360
both things. No. Certain forms do

630
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
transitive, certain forms do intransitive.

631
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,160
They're not the same. They don't overlap.

632
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,680
And because that is so, the perfect and

633
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,480
the pluperfect of histamine has a less

634
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,160
than predictable time sense associated

635
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,000
with it. It's present and imperfect in

636
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,760
time sense, or equivalent to an imperfect

637
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:09,800
indicative, that is, right? I am, I was. I

638
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,360
stand, I was standing. Why are we saying

639
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:21,800
this? Back to the text. Hey, stay, K. It's

640
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,200
histamine. It's not perfect, but

641
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,800
pluperfect. It has a time sense equivalent

642
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,800
to an imperfect indicative. Was standing.

643
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,320
Or, you know, okay, you know, we won't

644
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,440
quarrel too much with the ESV on this one.

645
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,720
Stood up. Was standing up. Something like

646
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:52,720
that. But it has a past time sense, the

647
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,400
pluperfect of histamine. How do we know

648
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160
it's a pluperfect? Think of histica with

649
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,440
rough breathing, right? Estesa versus

650
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,240
histica. Smooth breathing, rough

651
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,560
breathing. The aorist versus the perfect.

652
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,600
The perfect has rough breathing. How do

653
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,280
you build a pluperfect? You start with a

654
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,160
perfect. You add a temporal augment. And

655
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,080
the connecting vowel for the pluperfect

656
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,520
is, you know, kind of unusual, but also

657
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,680
very distinguishing as a result. The

658
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,640
connecting vowel is an Epsilon Yoda

659
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,600
diphthong. You know, you were just craving

660
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,600
this kind of review regarding histamine

661
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,000
and histamine. The perfect and pluperfect

662
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,440
forms of verbs. So histica, add a temporal

663
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680
augment, and what do you get? Epsilon

664
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,360
Yoda. The rest of the stem is the same.

665
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,960
You know, histica. But we've got a, you

666
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,200
know, the perfect has an alpha connecting

667
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,000
vowel. The pluperfect has an Epsilon Yoda

668
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,480
connecting vowel. So hastica. So hastica.

669
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,000
Pluperfect, indicative active, with a time

670
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,960
sense equivalent to the imperfect

671
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,920
indicative, and it's third person

672
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,440
singular. Jesus is the subject. You know,

673
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,440
on the last great day of the feast, Jesus

674
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:32,080
was standing, or was standing up. And,

675
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:36,040
Kai, ekroxen, you know, once in a while,

676
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
you know, a verb form can be a little less

677
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,960
challenging. You know, this is just the,

678
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,680
you know, a weak heiress of Kradzo, right?

679
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Ekroxen, he cried out. Legon, the

680
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,440
pleonastic use of the participle of Lego.

681
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,880
You know, it's so redundant that the ESV

682
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440
routinely prefers not to even translate

683
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,880
it. But what's, you know, it's not like we

684
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,520
don't talk this way ourselves, especially

685
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,880
with our storytelling. He was standing, or

686
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,880
he, you know, was standing up, and he

687
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:21,680
cried out, saying. And Legon marks direct

688
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,920
discourse, right? Comma quotation marks.

689
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Et on. The combination of A, the

690
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,240
conditional particle, and on, the particle

691
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:38,520
of uncertainty. Et on takes a subjunctive

692
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,720
with its use. So there it is, the

693
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:51,080
subjunctive of dipsa'o, I thirst. We won't

694
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,800
trouble ourselves with trying to figure

695
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,520
out why morphologically dipsa'o is a

696
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,920
subjunctive subjunctive. It needs to be a

697
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,160
subjunctive. Et on takes the subjunctive.

698
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Most of the time. Well, routinely takes

699
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,200
the subjunctive. You see et on, and you're

700
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,520
expecting a subjunctive, and you get one.

701
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Tis. Tis can be one of two different

702
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,960
things, right? With an accent, tis is an

703
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,200
interrogative pronoun. Tis is an

704
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,920
interrogative pronoun. what, why. With no

705
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:36,840
accent, tis is an indefinite pronoun. A

706
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,200
certain person, a certain thing. It's

707
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:49,520
indefinite. If, et on, a certain person, a

708
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:55,200
certain person, tis, tipsa, thirsts, er

709
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:03,280
shesto, er shesto pros me, kai peneto. You

710
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,520
know, sto, to. These are pretty

711
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,480
distinguishing endings. These are the

712
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,760
endings for a third person singular

713
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:22,240
imperative. Sto, a to, sto, to san, third

714
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,560
person plural, sto san, third person

715
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,960
plural. For verbs that are either, you

716
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,040
know, active, or, in the case of er kai,

717
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,400
middle deponent. Right? So, that's why you

718
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,280
get sto, instead of to. This form is

719
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,080
active, this form is middle deponent. Er

720
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,840
khamu. Let him come. Third person

721
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,480
singular. How do we do this in English? We

722
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,000
use the helping word let. Let him come.

723
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Let him pino drink. Right? Come. Come. If

724
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,840
a certain person thirsts, let him come,

725
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,680
praos me, to me, and let him drink. Jesus

726
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:16,920
is declaring to the entire festal assembly

727
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,760
that he is the end point of this feast's

728
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:29,280
eschatological hope. the water rituals are

729
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,800
all important and defining Jesus as the

730
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,960
final reality. The source of the

731
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,200
eschatological waters of the, you know,

732
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,880
long anticipated, much anticipated

733
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,640
eschatological age. Right? Let it, if you

734
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,240
want to experience the eschatological

735
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,720
things of the finality that is the Lord's

736
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:58,160
day, come to me, and I will be this for

737
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,000
you, for all of you, he declares on the

738
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,680
last great day of the feast.

739
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Yeah. I was about to say something I

740
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,720
decided not to. Sorry. Thus far, the text,

741
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,280
right? And notice the period at the end of

742
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,520
verse 37, but no earliest manuscript of

743
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,920
this text was a punctuated text. That's a

744
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,640
debatable decision on the part of the, you

745
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,840
know, the person's responsible for, you

746
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,760
know, creating this, you know, form of the

747
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Greek text.

748
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,600
A debatable, you know, decision. Why?

749
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Verse 38. Okay. Hopus, do on, ace, ad,

750
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,640
man, comma.

751
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,720
Hopus, do on, right? Participant, modified

752
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:05,200
by an article. Pretty quickly. We're

753
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,840
hopefully in a position to notice.

754
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,840
Participants with articles are either

755
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,600
adjectival or substantival, and there's no

756
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,960
third option. You know, it's A or B, pick,

757
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,480
choose, decide. You know, it's that

758
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,080
straightforward. The participle has an

759
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,080
article. If the participle is modifying

760
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,880
something elsewhere in the sentence, okay,

761
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
it's adjectival. If it doesn't look like

762
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,400
it's modifying anything else, if it looks

763
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,360
like it's standing on its own, functioning

764
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,040
as a substantive, a noun, then it's

765
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,720
substantival, and that's what it's doing

766
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:49,040
here. The one who believes ace, eme, in

767
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,720
me, the comma helps, but the comma also is

768
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:57,680
a debatable provided form of punctuation,

769
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:06,280
comma. Notice that the ESV translates, you

770
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
know, offers a translation in agreement

771
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
with a supplied punctuation of the Greek

772
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,560
text. But we're saying what we're saying

773
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,000
right now because there's another option.

774
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,760
And more than a few these days are

775
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
preferring that other option. I'll be such

776
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,520
a person. Bill Weinrich is such a person.

777
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,160
It's the so-called Christological

778
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,040
understanding of the language here. The

779
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,600
one who believes in me, just as the

780
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,720
scripture has said, rivers will flow from

781
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:44,160
him, the one who believes? That would be

782
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,080
an extraordinarily exceptional suggestion

783
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,840
not offered anywhere else in the totality

784
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,840
of scripture, right? That the believer

785
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,120
might become somehow a source of the

786
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,600
rivers,

787
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,000
of these rivers of water, of the living

788
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,720
water of God, right? in his conversation

789
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,960
with the Samaritan woman in John 4, right?

790
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,880
Jesus, you know, offers to her also the

791
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,400
living water of God. And it's suggested in

792
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,640
the text that when received by the

793
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,720
believing person, the rivers of water

794
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:31,160
would well up in a person. But that's, you

795
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,480
know, that's different than what's being

796
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,640
expressed here. flow from?

797
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,520
That's very different. That's kind of

798
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,760
alien, actually, if we're kind of looking

799
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,520
elsewhere to similar texts. When these

800
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,800
eschatological rivers flow, right, where

801
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,520
do they flow from? Who do they flow from?

802
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,800
The answer is Jesus, the Lamb of God.

803
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,360
Jesus, the temple. Jesus, the Lamb of God.

804
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Jesus, the one who suffered and died on

805
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,560
the cross. Jesus, who sits on the throne

806
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
of the eschatological New Jerusalem. From

807
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,160
the throne flows the river because Jesus

808
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,360
is the source, right? Bearer and giver of

809
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,360
the eschatological spirit, that's who

810
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,680
Jesus is. He who baptizes with the Holy

811
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,640
Spirit, that's who Jesus is. You know, so

812
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,480
what happens on the cross? You know, from

813
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,320
his riven side flows not just blood, the

814
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,560
normal, the usual, but also water, the

815
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,040
promised living water of God. You know,

816
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,920
the benefit of the cross is just this. The

817
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,560
eschatological rivers promised, the living

818
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,000
waters of God promised. Hence, they

819
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,520
continue to flow from this same person.

820
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,640
And the eschatological reality of the not

821
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,840
yet, with the descent of the New Jerusalem

822
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,360
from heaven above, right? Jesus is

823
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,440
consistently, you know, the eschatological

824
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,520
source of these things, right? What should

825
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,720
we do with verses 37 and 38? We should

826
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,640
consider punctuating differently.

827
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Hoppestuon ace eme, that can begin a

828
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,720
sentence, that's how the ESV takes it, or

829
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,120
it can end a sentence. Put a period after

830
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,520
ace eme, and get rid of the period after

831
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,640
peneto. What happens? The substantized

832
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,320
participle, the one who believes, becomes

833
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,480
the understood subject of the two

834
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,320
imperatives. Well, you could say, of one

835
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,400
of the imperatives in particular, or

836
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,920
nothing prevents us from seeing Hoppestuon

837
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
as the subject of both of these third

838
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,040
person singular imperatives. It would read

839
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,080
then like this, for more see Weinreich,

840
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:27,240
if a certain person thirsts, let that

841
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,960
person, the one who believes in me, come

842
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,880
to me and drink.

843
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Period. Kathos a pen, a grafé, then this

844
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,320
suggestion that scripture has somehow

845
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:53,440
anticipated this, and that Jesus brings

846
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,520
this in eschatological terms, you know,

847
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,040
makes so much better sense. That said, it

848
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,280
is admittedly difficult to isolate one

849
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,480
text in particular that talks this way.

850
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,000
You know, as the scripture has said,

851
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,800
rivers of living water will flow from his

852
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:13,080
this

853
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,960
suggestion of a fulfillment of scripture

854
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,880
apparently involves the need for the

855
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,400
hearer, the reader, to see this in complex

856
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,600
of, you know, multilayered terms. You

857
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,080
know, multiple texts are apparently

858
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,040
recalled. you know, a river flowing from

859
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,400
the eschatological temple in Ezekiel,

860
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,080
other rivers, other expressions of this

861
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,520
hope, you know, as expressed here in John.

862
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,000
You'll have to range around a bit, and

863
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,920
Weinrich, again, is helpful in this

864
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,520
regard. He ranges around to find the, you

865
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,560
know, or to point out the multiple

866
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,200
possible reference of this suggestion of

867
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,720
scriptural fulfillment. For more, see

868
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:15,880
Weinrich, just as kathos, he grafe, the

869
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,400
scripture, a pen, said, or has said,

870
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,640
hatamoi, rivers, ektes koileas, from his

871
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,880
heart. We're going to quarrel a little bit

872
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,240
with the ESV's translation of this part of

873
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,320
the text, too, but more about that, you

874
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:44,160
know, stay tuned. From his heart, cruzusen

875
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,720
will flow rivers, hødatos, genitive, of

876
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:55,400
water, zontos, of living water, rivers of

877
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,040
living water. So the noun modified by the

878
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,840
genitive appears at the beginning and at

879
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,080
the end here, and the concluding genitive

880
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,320
of water, hødatos, is itself modified

881
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:13,800
further by zontos, another genitive. We'll

882
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,720
cut to the chase with the participle. It's

883
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:22,160
probably adjectival. You know, articles

884
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,120
will often help us see adjectival and

885
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,640
substantival. once in a while they don't.

886
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,880
It doesn't make sense for this to be seen

887
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,720
as predicate position, temporal, causal,

888
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,280
concessive, or one of those things.

889
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,320
Instead, it makes much better sense for us

890
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,200
to be seeing this as an attributive

891
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,960
position participle, lacking the article,

892
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,920
but still attributive position. then it's

893
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,200
either adjectival or substantival again.

894
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,080
Here, adjectival makes imminent sense.

895
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,280
Water that is living, or just living

896
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,000
water. Rivers of living water will flow

897
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,400
from his koili'a. Double click the noun.

898
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,000
You know, where does heart come from?

899
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:17,360
Koili'a means heart. Koili'a doesn't.

900
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Double click the form. Koili'a, noun,

901
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,080
right? Feminine, a feminine noun. Entry

902
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,920
number one, the organ of nourishment. Boy,

903
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,800
that's, sometimes the lexicon can be

904
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:43,760
hideously abstract. Entry A, the digestive

905
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,000
tract in its fullest extent, your belly,

906
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:54,080
your abdomen, right? Your stomach, right?

907
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,800
B, especially the body's receptacle for

908
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,720
elements, belly, stomach, you know, we're

909
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,760
just saying more of the same. A koili'a

910
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,280
can be a womb, but that wouldn't be the

911
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,760
case here. entry two, so we kind of

912
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,320
dispense with entry two as an option. If

913
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,600
you have your Logos software sufficiently

914
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,640
configured so that it, I'm going to move

915
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,640
me out of the way here, get out of there,

916
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,560
over there, no, way over there.

917
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,960
Logos will highlight any reference text to

918
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,720
the text that's in the lexicon,

919
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,440
and this can be really helpful. 738, under

920
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,720
entry three, which offers the gloss or,

921
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,880
you know, the equivalent, the seat of

922
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,240
inward life, of your feelings and desires,

923
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,280
right? Your belly, you know, your gut, you

924
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,240
trust your gut, trust your instincts,

925
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,760
trust your feelings, trust your desires.

926
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,040
You know, in the ancient world of Jesus'

927
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,520
day, feelings and desires were associated

928
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,920
with the belly, right? Belly. Then this

929
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,200
parenthetical observation, but English

930
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,440
prefers the functional equivalent heart.

931
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,360
Koalita then denotes the hidden innermost

932
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,040
recesses of the human person, you should

933
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,040
say. And then down here where they offer a

934
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:38,160
translation of chapter 7, verse 38, shall

935
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,600
flow from the person's heart, they

936
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,960
suggest, because for us, the heart is

937
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:52,000
thought of, well, let's see, before I say

938
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,560
what I was about to say, you know, 738,

939
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,960
thought of as a scriptural quotation,

940
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,760
though its source can no longer be

941
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,080
determined with certainty, the expression

942
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,840
may be proverbial, okay, okay, we said a

943
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,040
little bit about that, the koilea, notice

944
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,600
where I'm pointing, has often been taken

945
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,360
to be that of the believer, but there is

946
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,120
an increasing tendency, yeah, to punctuate

947
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,160
with a period after eme, in verse 38,

948
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,360
rather than after peneto, right, which

949
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,600
makes it a so-called Christological

950
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,080
reading, rather than a reading descriptive

951
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:33,520
of the believer from the koilea of Jesus,

952
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,640
then, comes this promised rivers of living

953
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,920
water, according to the text. the da-da-da

954
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,960
-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, and because we

955
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,080
associate, you know, innermost feelings

956
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,800
with the heart rather than the belly, this

957
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,000
move is made, less than prudent, I'd say,

958
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,280
this move is made to translate koilea,

959
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,040
which normally refers to your abdomen,

960
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,480
your belly, and can include your side of

961
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,920
your abdomen, where the lance, you know,

962
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,360
is described as penetrating the body of

963
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,280
the crucified Jesus, from that riven side

964
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,080
of Jesus flows exactly what Jesus is

965
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,840
talking about here, rivers of living

966
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,560
water, rivers of living water, from the,

967
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,720
you know, belly, stomach, abdomen, not

968
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,760
from the heart. Wow, is that misleading?

969
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,920
It may take some careful work to, you

970
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
know, point out to people that heart

971
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,680
probably isn't the best translation of the

972
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,440
text here, and the one who believes in me

973
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,240
belongs to verse 37, not to the sentence

974
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,200
that follows in verse 38.

975
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,040
Proceed with due caution, but also with

976
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,240
deliberate interest, perhaps, in

977
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,600
proclaiming Jesus out of this text, which

978
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,800
does, you know, I would suggest, prove to

979
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,160
be exactly what this, what Jesus in this

980
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,000
text is talking about. He's talking about

981
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,160
himself. He's describing himself as source

982
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,400
of the eschatological living waters, a

983
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,520
source of the eschatological dispensation

984
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,080
of these things. What things? verse 39,

985
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,560
we'll do this quick, and then we got to

986
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:43,760
stop. Now, he said this, concerning the

987
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,840
spirit, right? Wow. The living water of

988
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,960
God is the spirit. The spirit is the

989
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:57,240
living water of God. You know, for the

990
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,880
first time in this gospel, this is

991
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,440
explicitly indicated by the text. All of

992
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,760
Jesus' talk about water, water, water,

993
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,200
water, living water, salvific water, is

994
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,640
talk that he's offering regarding the

995
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,600
spirit, the eschatological dispensation of

996
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,040
the spirit, right? hum, emelon, which,

997
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:25,120
hum, pistusantes, another substantized

998
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,880
form of pistuo, which those who were

999
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,800
believing, esauton, in him, emelon, were

1000
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,160
about, melo takes an infinitive, lambanin,

1001
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,000
to receive, right? They are about to

1002
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,360
receive this. They have not yet received

1003
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,680
this. The living water of God will not

1004
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,520
flow until Jesus suffers and dies, until

1005
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,120
the accomplishment of the cross is

1006
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,600
secured. Then the waters of this

1007
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,200
eschatological final dispensation of the

1008
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,480
spirit will flow, right? Will flow for us

1009
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,840
all. Can then be received by us all,

1010
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,000
right? Notice that? Sorry. How this

1011
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,400
relates in every way to the past, the

1012
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,400
present, and the blessed eschatological

1013
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,920
future. For, you know, Puma, the spirit,

1014
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,080
Ein, was, upo, not yet, which doesn't mean

1015
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,960
that the spirit doesn't exist yet. It also

1016
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,640
doesn't mean that Jesus' followers don't

1017
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,760
have any measure of the spirit yet. To

1018
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,720
believe in Jesus is to be moved by the

1019
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,080
spirit, but a greater spirit is coming,

1020
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:50,320
and it will come when Jesus is glorified.

1021
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,920
Not yet is the eschatological spirit the

1022
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,280
final dispensation, the finality of the

1023
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:03,040
final things, because Jesus, Jesus, Udepo,

1024
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,440
was not yet glorified, and oxas, they

1025
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,080
glorified,

1026
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,680
he will be glorified when he goes to the

1027
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,800
cross. I gotta, I gotta quit.

1028
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,560
You know, I hope this has been helpful.

1029
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,280
May the Lord of these eschatological

1030
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,520
things be with us now and ever and always

1031
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,560
until Jesus comes again. The Lord be with

1032
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,840
you. Bye now. Bye now.

