1 00:00:00,667 --> 00:00:03,570 Christ then is present sacramentally we say. 2 00:00:03,903 --> 00:00:05,805 That means he's not present locally. 3 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:08,208 It's not like you and me standing here. 4 00:00:08,308 --> 00:00:09,776 But he is present according to his promise. 5 00:00:10,143 --> 00:00:13,713 What that means, we don't claim to understand and we really don't try to explain it. 6 00:00:13,913 --> 00:00:14,948 Luther didn't explain it. 7 00:00:14,981 --> 00:00:16,116 He just said in with and under. 8 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:17,517 It's there. 9 00:00:18,118 --> 00:00:22,155 And that's why we're not going to test the contents of your stomach and find body and 10 00:00:22,155 --> 00:00:22,622 blood there. 11 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:25,358 But is he present according to his body and blood? 12 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:26,059 Yes. 13 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,395 I don't know how, but he is. 14 00:00:28,395 --> 00:00:29,662 That's the promise he makes. 15 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:32,165 This then also leads to another teaching. 16 00:00:32,632 --> 00:00:39,072 Because of Christ's promise, that means that the bread and the wine are delivering the 17 00:00:39,072 --> 00:00:40,774 body and blood to whom? 18 00:00:41,608 --> 00:00:42,509 At the rail. 19 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:46,613 If you're at the rail and you're receiving it, who's getting the body and the blood? 20 00:00:46,846 --> 00:00:46,980 Me. 21 00:00:47,747 --> 00:00:48,114 Yeah. 22 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:50,250 What about the unbeliever next to you? 23 00:00:50,483 --> 00:00:50,884 What's he getting? 24 00:00:51,518 --> 00:00:52,419 Bread and wine. 25 00:00:52,852 --> 00:00:54,154 Bread and wine and? 26 00:00:54,687 --> 00:00:55,455 Body and blood. 27 00:00:55,855 --> 00:00:56,456 You bet he is. 28 00:00:57,190 --> 00:00:58,792 That's known as the Mandu... 29 00:00:58,792 --> 00:01:01,294 One more Latin phrase for you. 30 00:01:04,597 --> 00:01:06,066 I'm not sure that's the last one. 31 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:07,233 It won't be the last. 32 00:01:09,836 --> 00:01:10,804 Manducatio Indignorum. 33 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:13,273 Manducatio Indignorum. 34 00:01:14,007 --> 00:01:14,974 Manducatio Indignorum. 35 00:01:16,476 --> 00:01:19,779 Trust me, you will thank me someday for all this Latin. 36 00:01:20,246 --> 00:01:23,917 Because you will be sitting in a class down the road here and the prop will just start 37 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:27,087 spouting out the Manducatio and you're going to go, what's that? 38 00:01:27,153 --> 00:01:28,688 You're going to have people going, not knowing what they're talking about. 39 00:01:28,855 --> 00:01:29,589 You will know. 40 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:30,990 You will know. 41 00:01:31,691 --> 00:01:33,693 I'm going to say, I have Dr. Biermann to thank. 42 00:01:34,227 --> 00:01:35,261 His mercy to me. 43 00:01:35,462 --> 00:01:36,129 I'm so grateful. 44 00:01:37,063 --> 00:01:37,564 All right. 45 00:01:39,532 --> 00:01:40,433 Manducatio Indignorum. 46 00:01:41,201 --> 00:01:44,671 Manducatio means the eating, okay? 47 00:01:45,605 --> 00:01:46,039 Mandicate. 48 00:01:46,739 --> 00:01:48,908 The eating Indignorum of the unworthy. 49 00:01:50,076 --> 00:01:51,211 The eating of the unworthy. 50 00:01:51,711 --> 00:01:53,046 The Manducatio Indignorum. 51 00:01:53,046 --> 00:01:54,581 The eating of the unworthy. 52 00:01:55,448 --> 00:02:00,019 And the Manducatio Indignorum teaches simply the fact that when Christ says He's present, 53 00:02:00,253 --> 00:02:01,054 He's present. 54 00:02:03,056 --> 00:02:06,359 And even the unworthy will receive the body and blood of Christ. 55 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:10,330 Anybody gets it because of His promise. 56 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:17,804 This is really very important because if I teach that only true believers get the body 57 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:20,707 and blood, what have I just done to the sacrament? 58 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:23,643 Is it an issue of gospel or is it an issue of law? 59 00:02:24,377 --> 00:02:27,046 It's an issue of law because now it depends on me. 60 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:30,016 And if it depends on me, it's not gospel. 61 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,186 The point is God is simply delivering His gifts. 62 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:37,123 If forgiveness is there, I don't have to be worthy of it. 63 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:38,625 It's simply there. 64 00:02:39,092 --> 00:02:41,127 So even the unbeliever gets the body and blood. 65 00:02:41,427 --> 00:02:43,296 The comfort of this comes in here. 66 00:02:43,763 --> 00:02:48,601 Suppose I am really struggling in my faith and I'm not sure about anything anymore and 67 00:02:48,601 --> 00:02:52,405 I know my sin and my sin is overwhelming and I'm burdened by it and I feel terrible 68 00:02:52,405 --> 00:02:55,008 about it and I think I'm not worthy of Christ's presence. 69 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:59,412 I drag myself to the altar and I receive there the body and blood of Christ. 70 00:02:59,646 --> 00:03:00,847 Do I get the full thing? 71 00:03:01,447 --> 00:03:01,848 Absolutely. 72 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:03,416 And it doesn't depend on me. 73 00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:04,884 And that's where all the comfort comes in. 74 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:07,253 He's there for me because He says so. 75 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:08,688 It doesn't depend on me. 76 00:03:09,489 --> 00:03:10,657 That's tremendous comfort. 77 00:03:11,891 --> 00:03:11,991 Yeah? 78 00:03:12,325 --> 00:03:16,930 I went to Catholic University and went to a student Mass, also known as Singles Mass, 79 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:18,064 but for a lot of other reasons. 80 00:03:18,064 --> 00:03:26,206 I did find some comfort in what every time you went up to the table they repeated the 81 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:29,976 words of the Centurion, Lord I'm not worthy to receive you but I say the word and I shall 82 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:30,410 be healed. 83 00:03:31,678 --> 00:03:32,145 I don't know. 84 00:03:32,178 --> 00:03:32,946 I found comfort in that. 85 00:03:33,112 --> 00:03:34,247 Yeah, that's part of their piety. 86 00:03:34,581 --> 00:03:38,518 I mean that's one of the things that a parishioner is supposed to say when he receives a sacrament, 87 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:39,752 I am not worthy to receive you. 88 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:41,454 I am not worthy to say the word and I will be so. 89 00:03:41,754 --> 00:03:43,156 And so that's part of that piety. 90 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:44,457 I'm receiving them. 91 00:03:44,457 --> 00:03:47,760 And we have Lutherans who will practice different degrees of that as well. 92 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:49,495 Yeah, that's a cool thought. 93 00:03:49,596 --> 00:03:52,599 We're not worthy of His presence with us but yet He comes. 94 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:58,171 So the Mondicatio Inignorum says that everybody gets the bread and wine. 95 00:03:58,471 --> 00:04:00,974 This is kind of the acid test if you really had communion right. 96 00:04:01,608 --> 00:04:05,478 Because if you believe in the Mondicatio Inignorum then you really understand Christ's presence, 97 00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:06,246 the real presence. 98 00:04:06,512 --> 00:04:11,784 If you deny this, and of course Calvin would deny this because He's only there for the 99 00:04:11,784 --> 00:04:12,051 believers. 100 00:04:12,051 --> 00:04:15,088 Well, now you don't have a real sacrament. 101 00:04:15,455 --> 00:04:16,356 Now you're not getting the gospel. 102 00:04:16,623 --> 00:04:17,490 You made it into law. 103 00:04:18,257 --> 00:04:24,130 So this is a critical test on do you really understand what's going on here and what's 104 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:26,165 being given and what's not being given in the sacrament. 105 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:32,405 So then Calvin would say that the spirit, the divine spirit of God isn't even present 106 00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:36,909 in communion or Christ, isn't even present only for the elect then. 107 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:37,310 That's right. 108 00:04:38,044 --> 00:04:38,878 Only for the elect. 109 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:39,812 That's right. 110 00:04:39,812 --> 00:04:42,382 Nobody else is there because he's not going to bother with you. 111 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:45,551 And you see, you begin to see where all the doubts come in. 112 00:04:45,918 --> 00:04:46,786 So I go to the sacrament. 113 00:04:47,086 --> 00:04:47,987 Did I get corresponding blood? 114 00:04:48,588 --> 00:04:49,155 Don't know. 115 00:04:49,989 --> 00:04:50,890 Kind of a crapshoot. 116 00:04:51,391 --> 00:04:52,725 Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. 117 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:55,328 I think my heart was right but I'm not sure if it really was. 118 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:58,197 And this was an insight I had this previously this summer. 119 00:04:58,264 --> 00:05:01,534 I was thinking, I was getting ready to preach some text and it was talking about, you know, 120 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,136 if you come to God with a sincere heart. 121 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:05,038 And I thought, you know, we talk about that all the time. 122 00:05:05,071 --> 00:05:06,272 You've got to really mean it when you confess. 123 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:09,208 But then I began to think what does sincere mean? 124 00:05:09,208 --> 00:05:11,177 When was the last time I was sincere about anything? 125 00:05:12,912 --> 00:05:18,918 You know, if my sincerity ever becomes a test for my, you know, worthiness, I'm in trouble. 126 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:22,388 Sincerity is a hard thing to come by among Christians, among people. 127 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:26,092 We might think we're really, really sincere but we have mixed motives on everything. 128 00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:29,028 And I would hate to start having sincerity become the test of anything. 129 00:05:29,595 --> 00:05:30,863 Immersively, with God it's not. 130 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:32,498 He doesn't care where we're at. 131 00:05:32,565 --> 00:05:33,566 He just simply gives the gift. 132 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,704 So you don't have to have the right attitude to get the sacrament. 133 00:05:37,704 --> 00:05:43,009 Now, we again have the difference here between validity and benefit. 134 00:05:48,448 --> 00:05:50,883 Or sometimes efficacy. 135 00:05:53,052 --> 00:05:54,287 There's a distinction here. 136 00:05:55,054 --> 00:05:57,223 The sacrament is always efficacious. 137 00:05:57,357 --> 00:05:58,157 It's always valid. 138 00:05:58,725 --> 00:06:02,195 No matter what the person thinks, the body and blood of Christ are there. 139 00:06:02,929 --> 00:06:03,763 And you're getting it. 140 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:05,198 Is it beneficial? 141 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:07,767 Well now this does depend on where you're at. 142 00:06:07,834 --> 00:06:10,570 This gets into the mendicato and ignorum. 143 00:06:10,903 --> 00:06:13,973 So I have a human up there who's just kind of making fun of the whole thing. 144 00:06:14,273 --> 00:06:15,408 Says, that was just bread and wine. 145 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:17,143 Well, is he getting the body and blood? 146 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:17,744 Yeah. 147 00:06:18,144 --> 00:06:19,045 Is it benefiting him? 148 00:06:19,178 --> 00:06:19,712 Not at all. 149 00:06:20,613 --> 00:06:24,984 He has just made light of the gift of Christ and he's made a mockery of Christ's sacrifice. 150 00:06:25,585 --> 00:06:27,053 It's actually harmful to him. 151 00:06:28,287 --> 00:06:29,088 That's the reality. 152 00:06:29,255 --> 00:06:29,989 So it's not beneficial. 153 00:06:30,089 --> 00:06:30,490 It's harmful. 154 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,759 So there's a difference between validity and benefit. 155 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:35,161 Is it a valid efficacious sacrament even for the heathen? 156 00:06:35,862 --> 00:06:36,028 Yes. 157 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:36,929 Is it beneficial? 158 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:37,463 No. 159 00:06:38,865 --> 00:06:42,034 And even a Christian can have varying degrees of benefit. 160 00:06:42,869 --> 00:06:44,604 You might go up to the altar and receive the sacrament. 161 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:46,472 The guy behind you receives the same sacrament. 162 00:06:46,606 --> 00:06:47,573 It's valid for both of you. 163 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:51,310 But one of you is saying, man, I am so grateful for this gift of God. 164 00:06:51,377 --> 00:06:52,812 It's going to make a difference in my living this week. 165 00:06:52,812 --> 00:06:53,946 And he's really paying attention to it. 166 00:06:54,013 --> 00:06:54,514 And it does. 167 00:06:54,814 --> 00:06:55,681 It has much more benefits. 168 00:06:55,748 --> 00:06:58,084 The other one kind of just blows it off and doesn't make any attention. 169 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,052 Well, the gift is there for them. 170 00:07:00,052 --> 00:07:03,589 He's just not taking advantage of the benefits and not applying them to himself. 171 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:06,159 So we do need to make that distinction. 172 00:07:06,492 --> 00:07:07,760 And it helps to keep that straight. 173 00:07:08,294 --> 00:07:09,929 The benefit is – that varies. 174 00:07:10,396 --> 00:07:11,898 But the efficacy is always there. 175 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:16,469 And we also have to be careful because Luther did talk about a worthy recipient. 176 00:07:16,903 --> 00:07:18,271 And we still talk that way. 177 00:07:18,337 --> 00:07:24,310 And we're getting closer and closer to talking about John's question on close communion, 178 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,279 which we will get to, but not before lunch. 179 00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:30,016 And the question of a worthy recipient – and Luther would talk about that. 180 00:07:30,016 --> 00:07:33,586 And he would say, fasting another hour of preparation is good. 181 00:07:34,153 --> 00:07:35,288 There's nothing wrong with that. 182 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:38,691 In his day, you could not take the sacrament if you had not fasted. 183 00:07:39,025 --> 00:07:40,226 And then it kept on cutting the time back. 184 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:42,728 It used to be fasted for like a day, and then it became a few hours. 185 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,799 And I think nowadays they still have that rule, but now it's only a short period of time. 186 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:47,467 I think it's like – 187 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:48,334 By the time you walk into it. 188 00:07:48,367 --> 00:07:48,668 Yeah. 189 00:07:48,868 --> 00:07:49,535 You know, essentially. 190 00:07:50,036 --> 00:07:50,937 You had breakfast drove there. 191 00:07:51,037 --> 00:07:51,604 Okay, that's enough. 192 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:52,505 You fasted enough. 193 00:07:53,272 --> 00:07:56,576 But the idea is, our preparation is fine. 194 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:58,144 And we even do this in our churches. 195 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,446 You know, thinking about communion, be prepared for it. 196 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:01,314 So you should prepare. 197 00:08:01,447 --> 00:08:02,782 You should be ready for this. 198 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:04,884 So a worthy recipient should be prepared. 199 00:08:05,017 --> 00:08:09,021 But ultimately, a worthy recipient is somebody who simply believes the words. 200 00:08:10,456 --> 00:08:11,090 Who believes the words. 201 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:11,991 Trust the promise. 202 00:08:12,758 --> 00:08:13,526 This is my body. 203 00:08:13,626 --> 00:08:14,126 This is my blood. 204 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:18,931 And if you trust those words, and if you believe the words of promise, you are a worthy recipient, 205 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:22,835 regardless of your level of sin, regardless of your own lifestyle, regardless of whatever. 206 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:25,805 If you're trusting and clinging to those words, you're a worthy recipient. 207 00:08:25,805 --> 00:08:31,077 But even an unworthy recipient is still going to get the blood, the body, and the blood. 208 00:08:31,811 --> 00:08:32,812 But it won't benefit him. 209 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:36,849 So the worthy recipient, one who is simply clinging to the promise and seeking God's 210 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:38,184 forgiveness, that's what he gets.